William Sinclair of Roslin, 1st Lord of Roslin - BAD MERGES - have affected lineages !!!

Erica Howton if what Edward Dalton White Jr has is correct I will try and drag and drop (boy does that term sound Dirty!) those in.. Tommrow unless some one gets to them sooner..

I can't fix that.. also janet is listed in several trees and i don't want to make a bad problem worse..

It doesn't appear to be locked up . I could have sworn I had all the Douglas' listed but i need to go back to my notes to see what's what. can't do this line from memory. .

Plus I don't want to mess things up either.

Michael, thanks for the prompt. I don't know when I might have offered an opinion about James Douglas or what I thought was wrong, but I took a look at what's there now.

There seems to have been a bad merge.

The Display Name, wife and children, and About Me show that this is James Douglas, 7th Earl of Douglas.

But the other name fields and the dates suggest that he has been merged with James Douglas of Dalkeith, 2nd Baron Douglas of Dalkeith.

To complicate matters, there are two master profiles for the earl:

James, 2nd Lord Douglas of Dalkeith

James "The Gross" Douglas, 7th Earl of Douglas

I recommend restoring this profile to be James Douglas of Dalkeith:

James, 2nd Lord Douglas of Dalkeith

Move wife Beatrice Sinclair and daughter Janet over to the other profile for Earl James, along with the About Me text. I don't know about daughter Elizabeth, wife of William Wallace. I've never seen reliable evidence of her parents. Then, move this profile to be son of James Douglas of Dalkeith and his wife Elizabeth Stewart.

not quite sure how to clean this up don't know much about this era let along this line.. I'm not confident enough to try the fix Justin Durand suggsetd but it does make sense now..

Here we go again.

Judy: We are back to being 13th cousins - 1 time removed - Private User

and, i believe, the Sinclair lineage was also corrected

William "the Seemly" Sinclair of Roslin is your 28th great grandfather. William "the Seemly" Sinclair of Roslin

I made some of the changes I suggested above. It's easily possible there are other problems I didn't catch.

NOW, a question as i am going to really delve into the Ruthven lineages
(there is a number of places online,where family member researchers
claim that Ruffin - and; Ruthven is NOT the same family)
and, is a so-called 'story' created
- my brother is about to have his dna done
(my mother's father is a child of a ruthven)
is he the best person to get the dna done for ???
-my mother also still have 1 brother who is living
-which would be the better choice for DNA info (for me) ???
it is my understanding, that more information can be attained by a male member of a family
(i guess; my brother - shares; my father's line)
where my mothers brother - doesn't
(would it be benefical to get both of them done ?)
thanks; susan

IT APPEARS; THE LINEAGES have all been fixed :) Thank You !!!

some of the ruffin - ruthven info is here
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/RUFFIN/2006-12/116508...
(in canada Ruthven Clan, there is NO ruffin)

This is where Ruthven immigrated to Canada - Robert Ruthven(Wotherspoon)%20Ruthven,%20Sr.%20Birth:%20June%201,%201777%20Glasgow,%20Glasgow%20City,%20Scotland,%20United%20Kingdom%20Death:%20circa%201852%20(75)%20Essa,%20Simcoe%20County,%20Ontario,%20Canada

This is where Ruthven immigrated to Canada - Robert Ruthven(Wotherspoon)%20Ruthven,%20Sr.%20Birth:%20June%201,%201777%20Glasgow,%20Glasgow%20City,%20Scotland,%20United%20Kingdom%20Death:%20circa%201852%20(75)%20Essa,%20Simcoe%20County,%20Ontario,%20Canada

it appears that this has again become corrupted ???
William Ruthven, Master of Ruthven

see all the changes under revisions

i'm NOT sure how to adjust this and put it back correctly

i do know it should look like this: Isabella of France, Queen consort of England is your 20th great grandmother.
You
Susan Lynne Schwenger
→
Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
your mother
→
James aka Jim Edward Handy Jr.
her father
→
James aka Jim (Ruthven) Handy SR.
his father
→
Marion aka Marrian Ruthven - Handy - Satchell
his mother
→
Alexander (Thompson) Ruthven
her father
→
Robert (Wotherspoon) Ruthven, Sr.
his father
→
John (Henderson) Ruthven
his father
→
John (Peadie) Ruthven
his father
→
John (Hutcheson) Ruthven
his father
→
George (Reid) Ruthven
his father
→
William Alexander (Clerk) Ruthven
his father
→
William (Gray) Ruthven
his father
→
Sir William (Halyburton) Ruthven
his father
→
William Ruthven, 2nd Lord Ruthven
his father
→
Catherine Gray of Buttergask - Stewart - Ruthven
his mother
→
Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
her mother
→
John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
her father
→
Joan Beaufort, Queen Consort of Scots
his mother
→
John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset
her father
→
John 1st Duke of Lancaster of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster
his father
→
Edward III of England
his father
→
Isabella of France, Queen consort of England
his mother
Edward II of England
his father,
Son of Edward I "Longshanks", King of England; Plantagenet
and Eleanor of Castille Queen of England
(22ND Great Grandfather and 22ND Great Grandmother)

http://www.geni.com/people/Isabella...00000000620057923?through=600...