Please do NOT merge unsourced duplicates into the MEDIEVAL tree

Started by Sharon Doubell on Friday, July 29, 2016
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Thank you - I'll delete Private's post, as you've given us the alternative.

This link I got from Geni today (in Norwegian):

"Hjemmet til verdenstreet

Stein,
Vi har funnet en mulig duplikat for en profil du administrerer, Nils Hallsteinsson. Se de to profilene for å verifisere at de er de samme:

https://www.geni.com/c/9e01c0b52032ff3ffbca8eb2c0a29be5713f846f?u=%...

Sammenslåing av duplikatprofiler forbedrer dataene i slektstreet.
Du har 1 profilsammenslåinger å gjennomgå. Se listen her:

https://www.geni.com/c/9e01c0b52032ff3ffbca8eb2c0a29be5713f846f?u=%...

Hilsen,
- Geni-teamet "

Does Geni - team send out bad links to members ?

Nikolas Hallsteinsson Schancke is an old profile for which I see no Duplicates.

Private got an e-mail because it was a tree match on that profile. The match was merged earlier today: https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=71070259780 His parents still needs to be sorted though.

Don't merge in on Medieval Profiles. Please!

Sharon Lee Doubell I will folllow your instructions, but wouldn´t it be easier to stop sending out merging requests from Geni ?

Very true, Stein.

Private User - Interesting what you say about a bad link, don't follow. Also concerns what Sharon and Stein had to say. I also got a link to a profile merge that forced a logout and when I logged back in I ended up on a profile in a language I couldn't read, and I couldn't get back to my home page or my own profile. I had to control/alt/delete and close down my computer to get out of it.

Makes me wonder if there is something going on via a hacker or someone outside of Geni sending fake or malware-laden merge requests? I may be paranoid, I know, but odd things like this make me suspicious.

To clarify, when I signed back in I used the link that accompanied the forced logout, instead of closing out and using my own link. I suspect that log-in link took me to someplace other than Geni, (a fake Geni site) which is why I couldn't get to my own profile or home page from there. At least I didn't click on any links on that fake page - if I had I'm sure I would have downloaded some sort of malware.

Ermengarde

This Ermengarde has two fathers. Neither one has any parentage, hence both are suspicious profiles.

Fixed.

Catharina Jonsdotter Lind

Needless duplicate created today for no reason at all, please delete or whatever.

Ingrid Bjarme “Blix” duplicate set of ancestors.

This profile (919-970, king 931-70) shows two fathers:

García I Sánchez I de Pamplona, rey de Navarra

This profile (860/80-925, king 905-25) of his father:

Sancho Garcés, 1er. Rey de Pamplona

This profile (860-925), not of his father, indicates that he is his own son:

Sancho Garcés, 1er. Rey de Pamplona

Catharina isolated out of big tree.
Private User and Jerome F. Weber please add the original profile and its new duplicate that you want isolated out of the tree.
Fixing Tree Conflicts is what this Discussion is trying to avoid, and takes hours and hours.

Unfortunately, some people with incompetence continues to destroy the world tree, today someone added Staffan Bengtsson (Vinstorp) as a daughter to a Harald which is impossible, as any daughter of him would be named Haraldsdotter.

The original already exist here, Carin Haraldsdotter

Please make those who continues to sabotage stop before it's too late. It will get worse otherwise.

Sorted.

This is a huge problem with the whole site! It's time for Geni to finally step up and address this persistant problem. Some users need to realize when they are completely out of their element. Let experienced users handle the Medieval Tree! If you believe you have pertinent or conflicting info on ANY profile, contact the profile manager before ruining their work! This has been a continual problem with the New France period,as well. Please use common courtesy and contact the profile manager or creator. Collaboration without communication is totally worthless. The free-for-all/ no regard for others technique is ruining Geni!

Geni is trying to address the problem by providing Reationship Locking, and exploring other ways to prevent duplication on the Medieval Tree. The problem is that merging on the Medieval Tree produces exponentially increasing Tree conflicts over numbers of days - Because nowhere else on the tree does this happen to this extent, it's really hard to get people to believe us that their innocent two second merge-in of a duplicate causes days of repercussions for other users.

Mostly the duplicates are created innocently by new users, so this project is trying to spread awareness and the monitoring of it, by other users.

Mooted, is locking the whole Medieval Tree area off from ordinary users, but Geni has been loath to do that because for many users it is a really enjoyable part of the tree.
It really is a difficult problem to find an equitable solution to :-(

A simple intelligence test with 10 question deliberately made so that you have to have good skills in solving them, with only one tryout per user, and questions changing over times, solving the quest gives you a permanent key that permits you to work in the medieval parts of the tree, but, I guess we would have a lots of curators losing their ability to work in this parts as well... I give up.

A grail quest :-)

If that's true, do NOT forget to ask the question, whom does the grail serve, when you get to the Grail Castle. Otherwise everything disappears. Poor Perceval.

I really hate it when I get a message to merge. I've found there isn't enough info in what I'm given to make a POSITIVE identification. I suggest, especially in the royals, we all leave it to the Curators or the seasoned pros, just to be sure. a note to them about a merge possibility would be best.

Sharon : here is a new merge request :

Stein,
Vi har funnet en mulig duplikat for en profil du administrerer, Kristina Halvardsdotter Östnår. Se de to profilene for å verifisere at de er de samme:

https://www.geni.com/c/5f8bc902cdc182f70932e4175f0b99e743d62c1c?u=%...

Sammenslåing av duplikatprofiler forbedrer dataene i slektstreet. Du har 1 profilsammenslåinger å gjennomgå. Se listen her:

https://www.geni.com/c/5f8bc902cdc182f70932e4175f0b99e743d62c1c?u=%...

Hilsen,
- Geni-teamet

Sharon: a request from a geni user :

Sv: Peder Nilsson Skancke
Förvaltare för Peder Nilsson Skancke,

Jag kontaktar dig om den här profilen:

Peder Nilsson Schancke,

flera föräldrar efter sammanslagning ! ! !KOLLAS !

Med vänliga hälsningar,

Carina Ing-Marie Lundgren

Steins issues were related to mine above, but the tree has now been sorted by another curator.

The following freestanding family tree is false, mostly a duplication of the true line of Capetian kings. The first name is non-existent (note the lack of vital dates): he is not the son of Philippe I, and the real Louis V was a Carolingian king before Hugues Capet. The other four are duplications of the correct Capetian profiles that follow; note the lack of the well-documented vital dates for these kings and their queens. After the correct four profiles are additional profiles that ned to be deleted.

Louis V Capet, King of France

Louis VI Capet, King of France

Phillippe II Augustus Capet, King of France

Louis VII Capet, King of france

Philippe I Capet, King of France

These are the correct profiles:

Philip II Augustus, king of France

Louis VII the Young, king of France

Louis VI the Fat, king of France

Philip I, king of France

These are additional duplicate profiles to be deleted:

Charles, Count of Valois

King Philip III of France

Louis IX King of France

Louis VIII, King of France

Philip II, King of France

Louis VII, King of France

Louis VI, King of the Franks

Philip I, King of the Franks

Henry I, King of the Franks

King Robert Capet, II

King Philippe II Augustus Capet

King Louis VII, of France de Capet

King Louis VI "The Fat" de Capet

I need the links to the original MPs they duplicate.

The following is obviously the correct profile in the world tree:

Louis I, The Pious

The following should be merged into it:

Louis I, The Pious

Emperor Louis I "the Pious"

Louis I, The Pious

Louis I, The Pious

We don't merge in to the world tree - we isolate duplicates.
Done for Louis

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