Please do NOT merge unsourced duplicates into the MEDIEVAL tree

Started by Sharon Doubell on Friday, July 29, 2016
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No - every real person will only have one profile on Geni. Any duplicats have to be merged.

Sir William Coggeshall

Sir William Coggeshall, Kt., MP

James Coy : GENI is a single unique world tree in multiple administration,
This is mainly what escapes most of the new users who come from all the other trees online.
(and not that GENI has taken much care to warn new users about that)^^'

Here in this forum in particular, are deleted the climbs mainly caused by new users, who have not yet understood the thing, and run to the ancient climbing, without realizing that GENI is now so much developed that you can find your connection to the historical space time already a few generations above you :D
[unless even some of your cousins ​​literally next door, fans of the family before you, have already added you]

look example USER Carmen Beatriz Silveira Paixao Coelho added by someone in 2011
is now active in 2024 (I gather from typical new user activity)
/!\ and goes to try how to use GENI in the Spanish crowned heads of the XIII century /!\

PLZ self delete without bothering (C) for a couple of profiles:
-Beatriz de Castilla, DUP
-Rey Alfonso X de Castilla el Sabio, DUP
TNX

I would like to add that Alfonso is our 22nd Great grandfather ! Wecan't\ see that in Geni tree. It is important for our family tree to have this connection in our tree..
María Mayor Guillén de Guzmán, señora de Alcocer is our 22nd great grandmother. and she is the mother of Beatriz de Castilla / the father is Don Alfonso X de Castilla y Leon.
Some writes, told us that his union with Maria Mayor was good and deep. He married Beatriz in Murica, There is many videos on YouTube, with historians speaking about our Grant grandparents , Can you help me to have this in our own family Tree _

As I was updating profiles with documentation on my lineage I discovered Geni has profiles from the 12th Century are that same- and more.

Once, I had the profiles updated with documentation I believe these are the same.

Gilbert fitz Reinfrid, Lord of Kendal

Gilbert fitz Reinfrid, Lord of Kendal

Carmen Beatriz Silveira Paixao Coelho You can cite the profile you are referring to, in a dedicated thread by simply copying and pasting the browser link of the profile you are referring to.

in this case I made an effort, and deciphered this avalanche of Spanish names.. and I assure you that they are exactly there: illustrated and documented:
/!\ I really have no idea what duplicate downhill you were throwing yourself into /!\
(PLZ self delete your 2 DUP)

+plus by clicking on the King and asking how you are connected to him, GENI already gives:

____________
Carmen Beatriz Silveira Paixao Coelho is Alfonso X el Sabio, rey de Castilla y León's 21st great niece
*https://www.geni.com/path/Alfonso-X-el-Sabio-rey-de-Castilla-y-Le%C...

Johannes Ulrich Bodamer
Johannes Ulrich Bodamer

Added yesterday and goes back to early 1300s.

Danger danger danger
Marie Antoinette, Queen of France

103 new yesterday DUPs

Merge request by PRO Private User

You should probably follow this forum T.T

Livio Scremin At first, I thought who in their right mind would upload their GEDCOM 103 times (I have seen up to 4 on the same date), but then it's individual profiles of the extended family. That guy has some great portraits posted on all the profiles. I vote to merge just because of that. If they are merged, let me know, and I will go around and merge the rest. Just FYI.

FYI. they all seem to be 10, 9, 8, and 7 cousins, removed, so it isn't just to look at the pics.

Absolutely not, there is no more reason now in 2024 to merge trees of European kings queens and emperors trees..
As you can see (C) without delay cut and isolated and reported for incineration.

about paintings:
you will find that even statistically, the paintings that are not just clones already there, will be mostly random stolen from other people (even from different eras and geographical locations, I happened to see.)

in any case the incineration is never instantaneous, if the user wants to check his data mirror-wise with the MP GENI ones he surely has more than a few days available.

[Special thanks (C) for the research work of the CUT point, I was notified just on the phone and I thought well to report it promptly before someone for some useless reason thought of self-flagellation by merging half a French revolution until going up to the Middle Ages]

Three Profiles to Consider Merging

Giroie, Seigneur d'Echauffour et de Montreuil = Girole D'Echauffour .

Gisla de Montfort-sur-Risle = Gisele de Bastembourg

Guillaume Giroie, seigneur d'Echafour = Guillaume fitz Giroie d'Echauffour

I think someone should possibly merge these two Gilbert Venables... How come have they even existed for such a long time without being merged???
This one is the older one:
Gilbert de Venables

Gilbert De Venables

I'm not gonna do it myself since I haven't got the time to put myself more into it right now, so please someone check it and merge if they are the same indeed?

They are not the same. Thanks, though!

Petronilla Fezensac on both profiles - one as mother other as wife... Looks like one of them has either a mistake or at least they should be somehow connected. That's too many "incidents" for entirely separate lines, definitely. It's not as if Petronilla Fezensac was the most common name... And Gilbert Venables on both.. Might the other be a mishap duplicate then?

That I can accept as explanation, thanks. I just find these annoying somehow whenever I bump on them. When there are similarities, but then just NO. :)

I can't see where one has been isolated, Gary?

Unsourced dupliates here

Anthony Martyn and Sir Anthony Martyn along with each has a wife named Alice and daughter named Anastacia.

It goes down the tree into the Cannons. Added last week or so.

This seems to be a DUP for a Sir William de Soules already existing with a full tree, the wives have the same name and the years are approx. the same:

William de Soules, Hereditary Butler of Scotland

[Susanne Floyd Susanne Floyd]

Sir Anthony Martyn tree had been isolated. I'll remove some matches.

Private User - resolved the dup Soules.

Thanks Erica :)

What on earth is this...? Smells like someone was in a hurry. https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=84713059980

Private User That merge on the wife of Theobald and mother of Willaim, Lord of Douglass is exactly the type of merging that needs to occur. You can see that the duplicates prior to merging share the exact same profile (marked in green), and the sons William also require merging. It is a good example of how to clean up the tree. Basica database management.

You can tell the sequence by looking at the husband, the 2009 profile was compared to the 2023 profile, and it shows that the wife and son want to be the same people.

https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=84713052720

Alternately, you could have isolated and deleted the 2023 new duplicates, but there is some difference in information that is better to store as a data conflict until a future researcher can resolve. Merging is quicker and retains the profile managers of obviously the same profiles. That way the family lines can continue back and forward.

Also, the person who created the profile in 2023 was making the decision to merge them, so obviously she saw that the people were already in the tree. I come across that all the time when I am extending a line. It takes a generation or 2 for the existing profiles to tag the Blue Box to notify me of the duplication I am creating.

That is why I put in the minimum info when creating new profiles and the most exact spelling and dates from the sources I am using in order to trigger the duplication notice quicker. That way, there are fewer data conflicts created. It depends on if other people are linked along the way as to whether I delete the newly created duplicate or just merge it.

When I come across these (in the time period of 1500 to the present, I merge and follow to the end of the stub branches. If prior to 1500, I try to NOT merge unsourced duplicates into the MEDIEVAL tree!!! and then notify of what I think would be a good place to isolate into the past.

Thanks so much, Erica Howton. I tried to clean up some of my tree matches yesterday and found those. Never-ending. :-)

Private User -

re: What on earth is this...? Smells like someone was in a hurry. https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=84713059980

This is about the origins of the Douglases. I'm spinning off into its own discussion here:

William I, 1st lord of Douglas

Erica, I wasn't doubting the existing of William Douglas, only the badly and hurrily made duplicate that was merged into it. Because why...?

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