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-But, I see you saw other stuff that I've missed when I was just looking superficially :)

Private User - when its an old dup, its not just a dup. This discussion was initially (and still mostly) meant to capture new duplicates and educate members, don't do that, we already have it, thank you!

What you saw as perhaps a simple name cleanup I saw as "oh my, this genealogy needs a visit." And that's best done by separate discussion. The tree was / is fine. I'm still struggling with a good display name. https://www.geni.com/discussions/184700?msg=1235939

https://www.geni.com/discussions/158450?msg=1713760

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Private User - Thanks for pointing this out.
It's a stick-and-spouse tree, manually added, in Germany.
To me, It could be safely cut at https://www.geni.com/search/matches?id=6000000207886178831&src=profile&cmp=btn (Johann Friedrich Müller).
The new tree has "shells" (no names or dates) for the next generation but does have names for the succeeding generation.

Emily Kent Marget cut away!

I will leave the cut, etc. to those who work in Germany. (Certainly not me!.)

A recent merge left duplicate(s), conflict(s) behind.

Princess Holmfrid Eriksdotter, of Sweden

https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=86046371780

Just now, a user did a pile of merges that began with Thomas Wilkinson, Sr and ended with Robert Wilkinson (There are a few more.)

I have messaged the user requesting that they not do merges that go back before 1600. (I would do the reversals, but my eyes are getting blurry.)

Private User - Thanks for the quick response to my post.

I'm showing another (!!) pending tree match for Robert Wilkinson (https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000003729768468?return=match%3B&to=6000000007604250669) dating back to 2010. But the mother and siblings do not agree.

And another manually added stick-and-spouse tree just added starting with Walter Cotton, Sheriff of London (https://www.geni.com/search/matches?id=6000000020409070763&src=profile&cmp=btn). The cutpoint is Katherine Martin (old) vs Katherine Martin (new). The new profile adds a husband and child continues into Plymouth Colony. And another tree match.

Emily Kent Marget I'll take a look at the Plymouth Colony thing.

Erica Howton - It goes all the way down to the user. (I'm working on my admonishment message now.)

All resolved from Katherine Martin down.

Erica Howton - Thanks.

Another tree from the user who caused the mess with Walter Cotton, Sheriff of London
This one starts with https://www.geni.com/search/matches?id=6000000176192021008&src=profile&cmp=btn (Thomas Campe). The cutpoint is in Colonial Connecticut - Ezekiel Sanford (MP) vs Ezekiel Sanford (new)

Bonjour

Au moyen âge la petite Noblesse payait les prêtres pour que leur lignée apparaisse à l Arbre Biblique .

Ce "Monde" étymologie latin " spirale vers les ténèbres " n'arrivera à strictement rien du tout.

D'ailleurs je me demande qui m'a introduite dans cette conversation.

Je préfère garder mes idées pour moi afin de ne pas créer des conflits !

Ensemble vers l Humanité 💫

Le projet Ancestrors of interest-2 est un peu glaçant !!

Bonjour KA JOËLSOHN

Pardonnez-moi mes faibles compétences en français. Cela fait longtemps que je n'ai pas essayé d'écrire beaucoup, mais j'ai pensé que je ferais l'effort pour vous. Vous avez probablement été "tagué" dans cette discussion car vous suivez l'un des profils dont il est question.

Les conservateurs de Geni prennent grand soin d'expliquer que tout lien avec des personnages bibliques n'est pas facile à prouver. Les projets aident les conservateurs et le reste d'entre nous à trier les ancêtres ou les personnages historiques et à garantir l'exactitude autant que possible. J'espère que cela vous aidera. L'"arbre du monde" m'a aidé à trouver de nombreux proches parents en Finlande et aux États-Unis.

I am French but my writing is poor. You did good with your French writing, English is good for communicating

I had almost a major in French in college Diane Sevigny, but it is easier to read than speak or write now. I made a draft first and then used a correction program to try to help with errors, but I don't trust them. Oh well, it was a fun challenge and I hope helpful. Thanks.

Bonjour Suzanne Floyd

Excusez moi pour ma réponse tardive.

Ci joint un lien qui pourrait vous intéresser.

https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9n%C3%A9alogie_de_J%C3%A9sus#....

Bonne journée à vous

2 x MP Trees with separate ancestors and descendants.. Based around:
2 x Sir Edward Rogers:
Sir Edward Rogers
Sir Edward Rogers, MP
2 x Mary Lisles:
Lady Mary Rogers
Mary Lisle

There are conflicts on this profile Gilbert fitz Reinfrid, Lord of Kendal as the result of a recent merge.

While the 2 versions of the father Roger could be merged together it is unclear to me if this is the best course of action as the 2 versions have different parents.

Maybe the merge was incorrect (not done by me) but I am flagging it for someone more knowledgeable to investigate.

Judging by the related dates, this profile appears to be in the wrong place in the tree:

D.Sancha Vasques Sarraza

Someone may submit to the urge to merge it into Sancha Vasques Sarraza as suggested by Geni, but I think that would be a mistake?

Dimitri Vulis -- the medievalists are hanging out here; someone who can work in the piece of the tree you are linking to may come along, but this thread focuses on profiles of people born before 1600.

Couple of issues:
1. Reynold II de Pekham, MP has two mothers.
2. Dorothy Austin (old) vs Dorothy Peckham (added Aug. 24) The new profile has a son who is not on Geni. The manual additions continue forwards to Mary Ware The tree then becomes an import.

Private User

What are you thoughts on how best to handle this?

wife of Reynold de Pekham

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Wypeham-1

Alice de Wypeham is bogus and so is the name James Reynolds Peckham.

They've been detached at Wikitree but retained as fakes.

But on Geni, we have children attached I have not so far found sourcing for, so I do not know if we should merge "James Reynold" into James or Reynold or separate them.

Reynold II de Pekham, MP

I'll look for who the real parents were of Lora Lovelace (as in the poet's family)

(answering myself). I renamed "James Reynold Peckham" and his wife (not Alice de Wypeham) as per source document from 

Peckham Genealogy.  Page 187, viewer page 243

https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000208459120837

https://www.seekingmyroots.com/members/files/G005067.pdf

Peckham, Stephen F. Peckham Genealogy: The English Ancestors and American Descendants of John Peckham of Newport, RI 1630.

Hello Dear Curators & super experts

Here goes more one duplicated with mistakes 2024:

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/5535353244920040751?to=600000020...

Correct profile:
Pépin ll "the Fat" d'Héristal, Mayor of the Palace of Austrasia

The duplicated one 2024:
Pepin ll Of Herstal

Thanks for your attention.

Hi - I hope you can see this. Someone has been importing tons of medieval trees. https://www.geni.com/search/matches?id=6000000002188045959&src=...

Today's medieval merges:

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000000769914591?return=match...
https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000013343298887?return=match...
https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000003051311476?return=match...

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