Please do NOT merge unsourced duplicates into the MEDIEVAL tree

Started by Sharon Doubell on Friday, July 29, 2016
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Livio Scremin the only thing I can see about Arnold von Dorstadt is that they have 2 parents

Its not an area that I work in so I can't assist with it.

well, ok..
you must have passed by there and removed the JPG just by mistake,
I'll put it back :)

sure that.. you pass by there quite often lately :)

but don't worry, now we let's tinkle (C) Erica Howton and we are going to remove the conflict soon:

ADMNs "trilled"
New inserter all unsourced "trilled"
/!\ PRO /!\ very active and still merging merger, /!\ "trilled" /!\ (mute & merging:) /!\

St. Erica PLEASE UNDO -https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=86191827670
then we will leave some text tags for reporting /!\ and requests some crumbs of source around, everything completely white, if it weren't for many pretty colored COAs.

Hi Livio
You are absolutely right that merging medieval profiles causes a lot of work for you and others causing frustration and I am sorry for causing this. I think Geni should set up some form of screen and not send merger request for medical profiles but guess that is not possible as this is now run by an ai function.
I will not merge any future profiles without making sure I have the history to back it up
Wishing you a good day

Sincerely

Jan

Hi Livio
You are absolutely right that merging medieval profiles causes a lot of work for you and others causing frustration and I am sorry for causing this. I think Geni should set up some form of screen and not send merger request for medical profiles but guess that is not possible as this is now run by an ai function.
I will not merge any future profiles without making sure I have the history to back it up
Wishing you a good day

Sincerely

Jan

to complete the fast easy UNDO path also: -https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=86191824610

or maybe you can get them to give you the tracks they were following.. (1200 online trees)

TNX @Jan but as I told you, don't worry, many think it is wanted and intentional :)

but if you want to try solve some one now, (many are very simple..)
I left you the link on the previous page:
-https://www.geni.com/list/tree_conflicts [drop-down menu "Updated by Me"]

those who don't feel like it, you can ask for UNDO here
have a nice job! :D

one of the most common simple conflicts is when you merge a new single line,
on a well-developed tree (and therefore with a wife.. problems start with multiple wives;)

the system gives conflict to the child as a child of a couple and child of "father+unknown"

at that point especially if there are blocks around that do not allow you to merge unknwon on mother, just go to the child's relationships with conflict and maybe you see a lock on the father and mother, but no lock on "father+unknwon" remove this, confirm, save, solved :D

I just found a conflict of this kind abandoned who knows since when on 800 year old Poland-Germany, and believe me I do not speak neither German nor Polish >.<

great great great hunt @Isabella !

think that even the MP is in time jump >.<
but we can't edit she because she's locked.. in time jump :D
some temporary JPGs should indicate the construction site more clearly >.<
great hunt!

what a mess of random dates,
in general when I see the birth date known in the early Middle Ages of someone who is not at least an emperor, I start to smell something.
Then when there is the birth date in single file and not the death date, the smell becomes more acrid..
When the female has it well the smell becomes very clear.. Here it is also NN well.. :D
I'll just tell you that here mother and son have the same birth date.. you tell me what the smell smells like >.<

but do you see the irony in knowing the birth date of a female from 900 years ago..
(exactly 1120, not even about:)
..but this female is N.N unknown? NN XD

Livio Scremin & Jan Sem Dambæk

I resolved the problem at Arnold von Dorstadt and started a discussion for his tree:

Eiko von Dorstadt - Medieval Dorstadt tree

https://www.geni.com/discussions/285622?msg=1731714
Eiko von Dorstadt

This must have gotten lost in the shuffle, an ancestor with 15,000 descendants has been duplicated.

https://www.geni.com/discussions/158450?msg=1731581

I had no doubts @Erica!
but a "family search" record has just entered early medieval Milan that brings the Duchess progenitor of some noble South American
PLZ CUT parents of Catarina Visconti (1365-1415)

the info about contained in the husband's profile calls her: " Catarina de Mello. "

but since it is a "familysearch" record, it won't be the last time that South Americans will swoop down on medieval Milan with DUP and merge..
..we have to invent something T.T

Two old Dutch matches:
1. https://www.geni.com/search/matches?id=6000000029145394711&src=profile&cmp=btn (Johan van Middachten)
2. His wife - https://www.geni.com/search/matches?id=6000000042552081754&src=profile&cmp=btn (Arendje van Gulik)
Please be aware the creator of these tree matches is doing merges in the 1380s Dutch tree.

@ Debra it looks legit from wiki tree: Beatrix de Coligny, comtesse d'Entremont
(not that anyone bothered to leave it written somewhere of course :)

only 3 DUPs to merge to go..

DONE
(yeah well actually I just made you a great sourced "Savoy" connection on 2008 her mother's first husband:)

hehehe is the MP blocked Philippe Mius d'Entremont, first Baron of Pobomcoup (1609-1700)
who has unknown abusive parents blocked :S
complete with (C) note above that says unknown parents :D

How the hell did they add blocked relatives!? (Who;)

PLZ Erica Howton take the katana XD

Livio Scremin - done.

Both from 2018. There are some inconsistencies in their ancestry but I believe they're the same person

Aires Vaz Pinto
Ayres Vaz Pinto

@ Isabel below it goes down in single file until 1600
but above it goes up branched until 1000..

even if it weren't for a couple of generations and a different mother,
it would be a real pain to merge all them >.<

best wishes (C)s ^^'

and also the whole MP part is colored and highlighted with absolutely nothing written inside >.<

Erica Howton I really don't understand,
they go around coloring everywhere,
(C) cuts and leaves notes..
..they don't care, they color and put together without writing anything at all,
but what do they have broken keyboards? o.O

They don't care, they remove the JPG warning and replace it with a pretty colored COA everywhere, and then they reinsert it and resurface a few hours later as if nothing had happened
... https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=86423914410

Please CUT out again the wife and son of Antonio Colonna Romano

we're still waiting for the sources,
and all this random merging is starting to get too ridiculous in this decade at this point in the project /!\

NN Cabral
2016 last (C) action as NN MP,
renamed AKA Colonna in 2020,
/!\ merged whit connection in 2022 /!\

this unsorced is attacked as a father in 2020
Giacomo Sciarra Della Colonna

as son of a Frederico is cutued by (C) 4 november 2024
who when or what reattaches it to Antonio!?
Why doesn't it appear on the list of changes?

(but above all: are you going to random attempts!?)

One thing to note is that some users prefer to communicate via messages to profile managers rather than discussions and these messages would not appear on the profiles.

sorry and this would dispense them from leaving traces of the sources they are following on the profiles they insert? :)

and who try and manage to reattach to famous super sourced foreign high medieval trees.. after (C) has just cut them down? :))

the excuse for removing a JPG signed "Fantasy etc etc. source PLZ etc etc" and replacing it with a nice colored COA what would it be?

& I don't know, someone just tagged a 1250 proifile with a JPG screen of a PDF that I know well (the shareable link is available) but he takes the screen and attaches it as an image document, so that the text is not selectable or translatable..
and he attaches it as a document on a profile (...-1280) when even someone who can't read and write can see numbers from 1400 on the text..

well no I don't agree @Leanne there's something wrong ;)
but do you see the time loops that they create around?

look for example at the profile tree reported by @ isabella a few lines above..
look: Sancha Mendes de Briteiros no one has had the courage to work on it yet..

Livio Scremin your preference is obviously discussions whereas other people have other preferences.

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