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https://georgetownhistoricalsociety.org/genealogy/getperson.php?per...
“ No record of Abigail (Walker) Dunton found after 1768.”

This is my only uncertainty.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/51905524/deborah-hodgdon

BIRTH 20 Jan 1774
Edgecomb, Lincoln County, Maine, USA

Deborah was the daughter of John M. Dunton of Montsweag, Lincoln County, Maine and Abigail Heal Dunton of York Village, York County, Maine.

But:

John married (1) Abigail Walker 11 Dec 1760 in Georgetown ME.

John married (2) Abigail Heal 06 Sep 1774 in Georgetown ME.

It’s quite possible Deborah was born before formal marriage to Abigail Walker, and Walker had already died, since we have no record after 1768. But I was thinking Walker likely died in childbirth with Deborah. VR won’t help, even if we can find the record; it will likely be Abigail without maiden name. Need will from a grand parent, perhaps.

I’ll place her under Walker with a comment.

Ok--- for Lay family --- I am seeing there were several men of same name and Hannah married one and her daughter married one:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lay-531 says:
"The name Valley was used to distinguish him from River Jesse Lay who owned land nearby on the Clear Fork River."

A gedcom recently uploaded added confusion with unsourced profiles and crazy duplicates....
Honeycutt is in the family downline so I got pulled in

Several of these profiles are MP'd but need more added to the About as well as media and MP more of the family members.
Plus of course merge some bad ones away to make them correct since they won't likely be deleted

Erica Howton

Thank you, that one was a puzzle with missing pieces. It looks much better now.

Erica Howton, could you look at this discussion

https://www.geni.com/discussions/271830?msg=1662917

Impacts the Shepherd>Jasper>Smith lines you and I are connected through.

This FDR has two sets of parents
Barbe-Elisabeth d'Orange

William H. Traylor is locked to parents that aren't Traylors and who disagree with most web trees out there. Can somebody disconnect him? His parents have 16 children according to the notes but they currently have 20, so some have snuck in incorrectly.

Here's another Traylor that should be disconnected - same argument.

Wylie H. Traylor

Private User - merging done. A zombie was in the way.

Karl David Wright - see the revisions screen for Samuel Riley, Jr.

https://www.geni.com/revisions/history/profile-84386332?a=compare&authenticity_token=sTzDuExkuk3A71OU6XzQZqGEdI2KPmlfHjzhPeP6eTM%3D&from_id=prev&tab=facts&to_id=78060680820

In other words, William Michael Traylor Jr. morphed into Samuel Riley., Jr. So far I don’t see a bad merge to undo, so may need to rebuild that tree.

Ugh. I can help with the rebuild if the relationships get unlocked.
I think I'd rebuild the Traylors and leave the Rileys more or less alone.

Parents
William Michael Traylor, Jr.
1750 - 1829
Ester Traylor (born Banks)
1760 - 1830

Looks like you're deep in it. I'll just watch then ;-)
There are still two more Riley children that don't belong. I think one of them is the one born in Mississippi. Not sure about the other.

Ah, yes, Looney Riley and Madison Riley clearly do not belong...

Mississippi could be OK. Let me find a fresh child list for Samuel Riley & his wives & post it.

Biography

Samuel Riley is believed to have been born in Maryland about 1747 the son of Samuel R Sr Riley and Eleanor Wallace. He came to the Cherokee Nation as a trader and became a partner of Doublehead. He was listed as a white trader living in the Cherokee Nation in 1797. He lived about 4-5 miles south of the present town of Kingston in the Hiwassie District on what is now Rileys Creek. He was a taxpayer in 1808 Roane County, Tennessee. He married two of Doublehead's daughters, Nigodigeyu and Gulustiyu.

By wife (careful, grandchildren are listed)

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Doublehead-2

Samuel and Nigudayi had five children:

1. JAMES RILEY, born 1792, married Jenny Shields and they had four children: Lewis Riley
Susan Riley
Malinda Riley
Nannie Riley

2. CATHERINE RILEY, born about 1800, married Andrew Lacey and they had six children: Ensley Lacey
Amanda Lacey
Eliza Lacey
Macy Lacey
Alexander Lacey
Catherine Lacey

3. MARTHA RILEY, born about 1802, married John Hall and they had three children: Elizabeth Hall
Ellen Hall
Martha Hall

4. NELSON RILEY, born about 1803, first married Mary Cordell and had two children: Martha Jane Riley
Louisa Riley

His second marriage was to Elizabeth Thompson and they had seven children:
Ellen Riley
Margaret Riley
Julius Riley
Joseph Riley
Mary Ann Riley
Perry Andre Riley
Charles Riley

Nelson died between 1848 and 1851

5. MADISON RILEY, born about 1808



https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Doublehead-2

Biography

Gu-Lu-Sti-Yu was born about 1770 in the Cherokee Nation (East), the daughter of Tal-tsu’ska Doublehead and an unknown mother. According to Emmet Starr she was from the Long Hair clan. She married Samuel Riley, a white man and business partner of her father, about 1790. [1] Her sister Ni-go-di-g-eyu was concurrently married to Samuel. Samuel died in March 1819 at Blue Springs in Roane County, Tennessee.

Samuel and Gu-Lu-Sti-Yu had eleven children:

Richard, born 1791
Nancy/Nannie, born about 1792
Mary (Polly), born about 1793
Elizabeth, born July 5, 1794
John, born about 1795
Lucy, born about 1795
Eleanor (Nellie), born about 1797
Sallie, born about 1798
Louisa, born about 1799
Looney, born November 12 1800
Rachel, born about 1801.

Mary, Elizabeth, Lucy, Eleanor, Sallie, Louisa, and Looney were baptized by missionary Evan Jones in 1805. [2]

Children of Gu-Lu-Sti-Yu Riley Are good.

Traylors look good. I guess Looney is real. ;-) But was he born in Mississippi? And how about Madison?


I would think the children were born in Cherokee Nation East.

  • He was listed as a white trader living in the Cherokee Nation in 1797.
  • Samuel Riley lived with his two wives near South West Point on the Tennessee River in Roane County, TN.
  • He lived about 4-5 miles south of the present town of Kingston in the Hiwassie District on what is now Rileys Creek.
  • He was a taxpayer in 1808 Roane County, Tennessee.

Children of Ni-Go-Di-Ge-Yu Sti Yu Riley do not reconcile with https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Doublehead-10

If they can’t be found in Wikitree elsewhere, we should double check with a query in the geni project, https://www.geni.com/projects/Cherokee-Genealogy-and-History/12

Sorting / updating the children of Samuel Riley, Jr. is complete.

Thank you!! I added your short summary to his "About" section. The section needs further cleanup, as you noted.

Copy off the old to an attached document called “about cleanup” if you want to give it a try.

There’s a simpler “child list” here with some good notes, just ignore the wives / sisters mother, because no one knows, and Creat Priber is a made up person.

This is a readable biography for Samuel, with original doc.

https://sweetheartsofthewest.blogspot.com/2013/06/samuel-riley-iii-...

Erica Howton hahahahahaha

Hi - a minor fix requested: John Chenoweth

I have attempted to contact the curator who curated him, but no luck. John Chenoweth's (locked) death date is so early that most of his children couldn't be his, if it is correct.

Web trees give a date of Oct 4 1865 and a place of death of Tippecanoe, Indiana. This is much more plausible. Marriage date given is Sep 6 1807, in Ross County, Ohio.

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