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Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087

I'm going to pass on the Sam Lee problem. It's still whizzing over my head.


Can’t say I blame you!
Plenty of descendants should be able to
Sort them better than this mess

I just read the Sam Lee info. I will see what I have. The Lee family runs particularly strong in Eastern NC and border of SC. They are complicated.

https://sites.rootsweb.com/~overstrt/Newsletters/onewv4_2.htm
LEE: Zachariah Lee was born about 1735, and was reported to
have been killed by Tories soon after the Revolutionary War. He
married Lucy Farmer, a daughter of Isaac Farmer, Sr. Their known
children were Jesse, Isaac, Jacob (married Cynthia Floyd), Samuel,
and a daughter who married Henry Pope. Their son Samuel Lee
was born about 1775-80, and moved from Robeson Co, NC, to
Wayne Co, Mississippi. It is believed he married first Sarah Shay
(or Slay) and married second Patsy Overstreet ?. His children
married into the Overstreets of Wayne Co, MS. Could they have
known of and been related to the Overstreets back in Robeson Co,
NC.

Joseph Allen Wallen is his own son Joseph Allen Wallen but he has Y DNA attached.
Please see?
DAR profile. I have added some info to the profile you curate, Erica Howton
TIA

Problems alert, lol. Recent import seems to be spliced in rather haphazardly. Supposedly my 11th g-grandparent, but that's quite doubtful since the link is through a child she had at too young of an age. Also no sources given for proof.

Sarah Jones

Richard Jones

https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=85449279030

We have a situation wherein a woman with the maiden name "Thomas" has been connected as daughter to a Mr. Jones. Jones has a separate issue stemming from a bad merge.

Private User - The merge is in the process of being reversed.
From what I can see, just looking at Richard - there were two people named Richard. The parents had very different names.
Now to figure out the correct parents for Arthur Jones, III

Thank you, Emily. Also Sarah Jones doesn't belong in the family group with 'daughter' Joane English because they're all Virginia whilst she is Massachusetts.

Private User - I think Elizabeth Sarah Thomas is supposed to be the wife of Richard Jones based on the children.
But I will not merge or connect without reputable sources.

I am sending the manager a message about duplicates in Geni.

John Pinnell has some issues with his tree
His wife is Rachel Pinnell

He is the son of Thomas Pannell, V - curated by Faustine Darsey on partial hiatus

He has

  • children born when he was only 11 (his wife was only 6)
  • a marriage and 4 children born after he died.
  • 2 children called George alive at the same time
  • children born over a 42 year span with the same wife.

His son William R. Pinnell could also benefit from a review - children born 8 years before he married, children born in different states, children born when his wife was only 13

Thanks
Leanne

Thanks [Private User Private User]  Will take a look.

Thanks Faustine Darsey on partial hiatus

Sorry I can't help on these profiles - It would take me hours to find sources that you can probably locate in minutes.

Private User DAR said that tree was not credible & I basically tore it apart. Thanks for letting me know about it.

Also, I looked it up. Culpeper County is VA, not KY. I will change those.

Ann is complete.
Can someone take a look at Ben's curated profile, please?
Cross posting here James Rice

There’s nothing much to see about James Rice Arrived on geni as a parent of Mary Baker

Erica Howton - Rees John William [aka Rees Jones] is a MP you curated, and I'm wondering about his name.

He's from Wales, and I have a rudimentary understanding of the use of "ap", but does he have too many, or are they in the wrong place?

Private User

Yes, that looked weird.

Some Welsh used patronyms well into the modern era, but the ones who emigrated to the USA seem to have gone through several name iterations and stylings.

So he would have been born with no surname, and use a patronym:

John ap John

Some Welsh names go further back:

John ap John ap William

He acquired several names he was known by in America:

  • Rees John William
  • Rees Jones

I've re-organized the names on Geni so they look a bit less awkward, hopefully.

John Pinnell and William R. Pinnell
still have issues

Capt. John Pannill had been conflated with John Pinnell DAR records have helped finish off the separation.

Capt. John Pannill Still has children born when he was 14

Not my area but in Australia it would be normal for a girl to be that age to have a child but fathers tended to be older.

I have added sources to Susan W. Banks that give her dob being 12 years later

Updated dates for Susan Pannill Banks.

Who is William Snow? Information I have suggests he is a son of Constance Hopkins Snow. Not listed among Nicholas and Constance Snow's children. Is he a brother of Nicholas. My information says he was born in Rnngland i 1617. He died in Bridgwater, Plymouth , MA 31 Jan 1708.

Private User

Is this, William Snow, Sr. , who you are talking about?

Erica Howton , and Hatte Rubenstein Blejer , I know nothing of a brother named Nicholas. Russell? Do you have a source for that? That would help.

"Not the child of Constance (Hopkins) Snow, "Mayflower" Passenger. This is the Wm Snow who married Rebecca Brown and had Hannah and Rebecca as above The girls married Rickard brothers. No one has documentation for his age or origins. Those 2 girls are daughters of Wm Snow and Rebecca Brown, whose father was on Mayflower."

There's an old tradition that he was a son of a Nicholas Snow in England, unproven. I don't know that family or how it's been debunked.

Hi - John Warner of Hadley and surrounding profiles look like they've been involved in a hit-and-run merge. Lots of mastered profiles which has prevented major carnage but looks like cleanup or unmerging definitely in order.

Karl David Wright - I'm taking a look through the "Revisions" to see when the two separate profiles were mis-merged.
Unfortunately, the curator for the profile is no longer active.

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