Matthew Wallace, Resident of Manokin in Colonial Maryland - Y DNA conflict

Started by Erica Howton on Thursday, November 18, 2021
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11/18/2021 at 12:49 PM

Currently showing as both DNA Markers: R-M269 I-BY444 details on Matthew Wallace, Resident of Manokin in Colonial Maryland which Is impossible.

Just wished more men would test and complete the Big Y. Half of those I meet are sheepish and prefer not to know their true haplogroup fearing what they may find !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11/18/2021 at 4:58 PM

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/WallaceDNA?iframe=yresults

Group 2a2: L596 > BY444

Earliest listed ancestor:

Matthew Wallace, b abt 1640 Scotland I-F2044

11/18/2021 at 5:01 PM

DNA Markers: R-M269 Was contributed by a descendant of William Albert Wallis, Jr.

11/18/2021 at 5:04 PM

He traces up tree to John Fielding Wallis son of Matthew Alexander Wallace, III so that will be the disconnect point.

11/18/2021 at 5:15 PM

Disconnecting John Wallis as child of Matthew Wallace lll resolved the conflict.

11/20/2021 at 7:07 PM

I am the FTDNA Wallace DNA Project administrator. Erica Howton accurately identifies the lineage of Matthew Wallace of Manokin as the I-L596 > I-BY444 lineage. Looking at Big Y 700s, we have 11 closely related but differing branches now dispersed worldwide. The earliest of these branches is of a lineage that migrated to colonial America from Switzerland. Genetic distances establish that this lineage existed 1000s of years before any adopted the surname Wallace in Scotland. Since 2007, family histories, autosomal testing, YDNA STR testing and SNP testing place a common male Wallace ancestor in Scotland not later than about 1600. I am the I-BY444 and descend from the son David of the Matthew Wallace accepted as marrying Elizabeth Alexander. This lineage was professionally developed in the 1930s and updated in the 1940s by the Maryland NSDAR for presentation to Mrs. Bess Wallace Truman at the White House after President HarryTruman took office. This document is archived and microfilmed and can be found in the NSDAR Library in Washington, DC, as acquisition 36135. Wallace Family Papers dating to the late 1700s are, also, filed in the Special Collections and Archives of the Wright State University in Dayton, Ohio. Google: MS 92 Wallace Wright State. Autosomal testing has a significant generational reach. Thus, using autosomal testing as a tool in genealogy, Wilbert Albert Wallace, Jr., may well be just as much of the I haplogroup as I am, the difference being that his lineage is picked up in his maternal lines. As to the Scot lineage of these lines, I like Horace Hayden's 1891 VIRGINIA GENEALOGIES. This volume cross-references nicely to Charles Rogers' 1889 BOOK OF WALLACE. Both are free to be read on Google Books.

11/20/2021 at 7:15 PM

Donald Kiblinger Wallace fantastic, I feel honored. Thank you so much for stopping by, and the additional information.

In my own tree I have Ross and Cunningham, so am deeply appreciative of the work of DNA Project administrators, and the sorting through of these lines.

11/21/2021 at 10:57 AM

You nailed the connection Wallace connection to the I2a2 Wallaces in your comment and reference.. I felt a need to respond.

I'd like to see your tree. When I find either Ross or Cunningham matches, I look for a Wallace connection.

Eleanor Ross married the Revolutionary War Ranger Thomas Wallace who died in 1812 and is buried a few miles from where I sit. A descendant matches me by Big Y 700 STRs at 611/611 even though we have different terminal SNPs, BY43 and BY444. The poet William Ross Wallace was of these Wallaces by paper trail. William Ross Wallace, the poet of "the hand tat rocks the cradle is the hand that rules the world." is of these Wallaces. Your Ross family?

11/21/2021 at 11:29 AM

William Ashburn 'Old Billy' Ross

We “think” he may be from Hugh Ross, 'the Immigrant'

We did a little DNA based study trying to sort Ross immigrants, in fact.

James P. Ross, I

DNA Testing

Several descendants of James Ross are Participants in the Ross Surname Project at FamilyTreeDNA.

They descend through his sons James P. Ross, II & Henry Ross. They all belong to a small group of matches that only contains descendants of this James Ross.

No descendants of any other sons of Hugh Ross, 'the Immigrant' have been identified as Participants in the Project. Therefore, Y-DNA has only proven the lines back to James Ross Sr.

There are also no Participants in the Project that have been verified as descendants of Rev. George Aeneas Ross, M.A.. At this point, the genetic signature of his family is still unknown.

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