Needham Bryan - Extra children

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No evidence supports these profiles as children of Needham Bryan and Anne Bryan and were detached on 25 May 2022.

Evidence needed to support these profiles as daughters of Needham Bryan and Susanna Bryan and were detached on 25 May 2022.

Fine with me. I have done very little, if anything, about people that far back.

Thanks. Part of the point of a post like this is to show what the connections had been before correcting the tree.

On page 473 of the Isle of Wight County, Virginia Deed Book 1, it gives the estate information of John Macland. It names his daughter Alice Bryant, Grandchildren Nicholas, John, and Elizabeth Perry, grandchildren Needam, William, John, Mary, and Alice Bryant, and wife Elizabeth Macland; 1 June 1705.

Alice MacLand married William Bryan[5]born, ca. 1655. Died, ca. 1749[6][7] [8] William is the son of John Bryan and is not a Marquis.[9]
Children mentioned in Will of John MacLand:
Needham Bryan (1690-1770), married Anne Rambeau on 16 Nov 1711 in Virginia, US,[10]
John Bryan (1692-1735)
William Bryan ( -1762)
Mary Bryan
Alice Bryan

addendum to above:
On page 473 of the Isle of Wight County, Virginia Deed Book 1, it gives the estate information of John Macland. It names his daughter Alice Bryant, Grandchildren Nicholas, John, and Elizabeth Perry, grandchildren Needham, William, John, Mary, and Alice Bryant, and wife Elizabeth Macland.

macland_will
1705 Will of John Macland

Children of John Macland & wife Elizabeth:
1. Elizabeth Macland
married John Perry
a. Nicholas Perry on 1703 tax list Nancemond Co
b. John Perry ca 1690 – 1760 Bertie Co
married 1st Elizabeth ?
married 2nd Sarah Walton
c. Elizabeth Perry
2. Alice Macland
married John Bryan[t]
a. Needham Bryant 23 Feb 1690 –
married 11 Nov 1711 Annie Rombeau?
married 2nd Susannah Harrell
married 3rd Sarah Woodward
b. William Bryant bef 1705 –
c. John Bryant bef 1705 –
married Elizabeth Joyner
i. William Bryan[t]
married ca 1740 Sarah Smith
ii. Arthur Bryan[t]
married Mary Smith sister of Sarah
iii. Elizabeth Bryan[t]
married Dr. David Hopper
d. Mary Bryant bef 1705 –
e. Alice Bryant bef 1705 –

(just to add to the confusion. LOL)

Marvin Loyd Welborn - double check for me that the geni tree aligns with that record. I’m pretty sure it does, but more eyes on …

On Geni, William Bryan, Sr. profile lists:
Son of: John “Smith” Bryan, of Nansemond and Sarah Bryan
Husband of: Alice Bryan
Father of: Needham Bryan
William L Bryan, Jr
Maj. John Bryan, of Edgecombe County
Mary Lee
and Alice Bryan

I’ve pasted the profiles to ensure each are captured into this Discussion.
And this looks okay to me.

As long as it doesn’t lead to the Vicar of Hell. :):)

Thanks for checking.

So Mary Lee is a little problematic - I don’t think we have record of her marriage to John Lee, Esq. But, there are links of Lee / Ingram / Rains

Need to find her parents

Anne Ingram

She is listed in his Will.
Also.....

U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
Name: John Lee
Gender: Male
Birth Place: VA
Birth Year: 1693
Spouse Name: Mary Bryan
Marriage Year: 1700
Number Pages: 1
Source Citation
Source number: 1307.207; Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE, listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1
Source Information
Yates Publishing. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.
Original data: This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was derived from an array of materials including pedigree charts, family history articles, querie.

viz:

Will of John LEE, Esquire
from Johnston County, North Carolina, Wills 1760-1830, Vol. II, page 95.
Raleigh, NC, State Dept. of Archives and History, Johnston County Records.
Photocopy marked Lee-0011-001 to -004 in margin.

Cover: "John Lee's Will. To [possibly 'pro' or 'for'?] February Term 1768.

In the Name of god Amen. I John Lee [smudged mark, possibly 'ym'='yeoman' or 'gn'='gentleman'?] of Johnston County & Province of North Carolina Being So at this Time Tollerbly well in Health and of Sound Mind and Memory but Calling to mind the mortallity of Body and that it is Apointed for all men Once to Die do make and Ordain this my Last will and Testament in manner and form following that is to Say first Principally first of all I Recommend my Soul into the hands of God that Gave it as for my Body I Commit it to the Earth to be Buried in a Decent manner at the Discression of my Executors But Regarding my Worldly Estate with which it hath Pleased god to Bless me with I Dispose of it in the following manner Viz: in the first Place I Desire that all my Just Debts and funeral Charges be fully Sattisfied and Paid.

Imprimis I Lend to my well beloved wife Mary Lee this Plantation whereon I now Live and all my Personal Estate for her to be Possest with and Injoy During her Life or widowhood.

Item. I Give and bequeath unto my Son Robert Lee one Negro boy Named Seasser to him and his Heirs forever.

Item. I Give and Bequeath unto unto [sic] my Son *Edward Lee one Hundred Acres of Land more or Less in the Low grounds of Neuse River whereon he has Cleared a Plantation Joyning John Lees Line and a Hundred Acres of Land Lying in the Low grounds Called John Greens field and Seventy five Acres of Land More or less Lying on Mill Creek at the Bridge and one Negro boy Called [torn--appears to be Abel] to him and his heirs forever.

Item. I Give and Bequeath unto my Son John Lee two hundred Acres of Land more or Less in the Low grounds of the River whereon is act [sic] Plantation Called the Cows Bones and one Hundred Acres Lying in Bearhill joyning of his own Land and two Negros a Boy and Girl Called Charles and Linn to him and his Heirs forever.

Item. I Give and Bequeath unto my Son Thomas Lee after my wifes Decease or widowhood the Plantation whereon I Now Live with the Remaining Part of the Low grounds and two hundred Acres of Land Lying in the Low ground Called Fredricks Lands and Part of a Tract of Land Called Trapnals Land it being the Part Joyning the Plantation it being Divided by a Line of Marked Trees Beginning at a Hickrey Tree at the mouth of the Cypress gut on the River and Running by the Line of Marked Trees to the Back Line and one Negro man Called Cuggo and a Negro Girl called Jenney to him and his Heirs forever.

Item. I give and Bequeath unto my Son Fredrick Lee one Negro wench Called Rachel to him and his Heirs forever.

Item. [line at fold torn and illegible--one word appears to be 'marriage'] Called Buster to her and her and her [sic] Heirs forever.

Item. I give and Bequeath unto my Daughter Mary Ballanger one Negro wench Called Nice and the and the [sic] Remaining Part of the Land Called Trapnals Lands to her and her Heirs forever.

Item. I give and Bequeath unto my Daughter Sabray Green one Negro Girl Called Bine [?] and twenty Pounds [illegible word, looks like 'Proek'] to be Paid out of my Estate to her and her heirs for ever.

"Item. I give & Bequeath unto my Grandson Shadrack Ingram one Plantation Containing two hundred Acres of Land more or Less Joyning Richard Ingrams Line & John Lees Line and three hundred Acres of Land Lying ond [sic] White Oak Swamp a Branch of Mill Creek and a Negro Girl Called Judah to him and his Heirs forever.

Item. I will that all the Remaining Part of my Personal Estate after my wifes Diceas (Decease?) or widow hood to be Equally Devided amongst my Children above Named to be Equally Devided by my Executors hereafter Named & I do hereby apoint my Son Edward Lee and John Lee to be my hole and Sole Executors of this my Last will and Testament utterly Revoking and Disanuling all Other Or former wills and Testaments by me before made.

In Witness whereof I have hereunto Set my hand and affixed my Seal this 4th Day of December in the year of Our Lord one thousand Seven Hundred and Sixty Six.

John [I] Lee
[mark appears to be a crossed capital I]

Signed Sealed and Delivered in the Presence of us:
Richard [a cross] GLees his mark [name not clear; could be Dees]
Gilbird [a cross] hix his mark
Samll. Smith jr.

Female Mary W. Bryan
Mary was born in 1693 in Isle of Wight County, Virginia. She died at the age of 87 in 1780 in Johnston Co., North Carolina, USA.
Children:
1. Female Sabray Lee — Sabray was born in 1717.

2. Male Robert Lee — Robert was born in 1724.

3. Male *Edward Lee — Edward was born in 1725.

4. Female Barthania Elizabeth Lee — Barthania was born in 1726.

5. Male Thomas Lee — Thomas was born on December 3rd, 1729.

6. Male John Lee — John was born in 1730 in Virginia.

7. Female Mary Lee — Mary was born in 1735 in Johnston Co., North Carolina, USA.3 She died at the age of 62 in 1797.

8. Male Frederick Lee — Frederick was born in 1737 in Virginia.

9. Female Rachel Lee — Rachel was born in 1741.

Yeah, those Bryans!
For Francis (the Vicar of Hell) we just don't know about his "Boy" only that he 'may' have advanced the Bryan surname unto others -- and then again, 'may not.'
(Oh, those Bryans!)

Do you want some YDNA link info? William Bryan b abt 1655 was the son of Thomas Bryant who was born in England.
YDNA links to brothers John,Thomas and Stephen who came to Plymouth abt 1630. Numerous YDNA links to Thomas's Isle of Wight descendants. Including an out of wedlock son born about 1668 with the last name of McKinney.

Narrative below was Researched by: Edna Bryant Cole of Erie, PA.

This story begins in 1630 in Kent County, England, with a widow named Anne Bryant. Anne's husband had died, leaving her with three young boys: Thomas Bryant , Stephen Bryant and John Bryant. Among the family friends and neighbors was a lawyer, John Doane, a widower with a son also named John. The elder John offered to give Anne's three lads a chance in the New World if she would marry him and go there with him (?). John was a capable man, highly regarded, and his influence would give the three Bryant boys opportunities they otherwise would not find. So Anne consented. The six of them boarded a little ship known as the Handmaid, on August 10, 1630 and two months later, October 29, 1630, they landed in Plymouth Colony.

Following a practice common in those days, John and Anne bound out two of the Bryant boys to good friends. Thomas Bryant was bound out to Samuel Eddy, and Stephen Bryant to John Shaw. Offering boys financial opportunities and connections independent of, and supplementary to those, which their own parents could offer them as they grew up. The third Bryant boy, John, being the youngest, stayed with his mother and stepfather.

Thomas Bryant

On January 2, 1632, the following entry as found in the Plymouth court records:

"Thomas Bryant, the servant of Samuel Eddy, was brought before the Governor, Mr. Will Bradford, Mr. John Doane, Steve Hopkins and Will Gilson, assistants, because the said Thomas had run away and absented himself five days from his master's service and being lost in the woods and found by an Indian was forced to return; and for his offense was privately whipped before the Governor and council as fore-mentioned."

Thomas disappears at this point from history's pages.

***Until his DNA fingerprint shows up in Isle of Wight VA.***

Whoa. How do we know this?

Thomas Bryant, of the Plymouth Colony

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