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John (2nd given name) Smith (Schmidt) (b. - 1812)

Also Known As: "Johannes Schmid", "Johannes"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Death: between 1812 and November 23, 1814
Pennsylvania, United States
Place of Burial: 1193 Clover Mill Road, Chester Springs, Chester County, PA, United States
Immediate Family:

Husband of Mary Smith and Johanna Elizabeth Smith
Father of Margareth Schmidt of Goshenhoppen; Susan Heebner; Sarah Gorgas; Kithe March and John Issac Schmidt
Brother of Johannes Smith and (brother #3) Schmid

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About Johannes Schmidt

Children of the Johannes Schmidt who is buried at St. Peter's Pikeland

  1. Margaret Fetters wife of George whose findagrave credits him with Rev. War service as well. Margareth and George were married by the Rev. Mühlenberg as seen in his <journals> (see project) Mar.15, 1785 Margaret's father Johannes was in attendance. We know that as of March 1785, when she married, she and her father were of "Gosehope" according to <journals Vol.III of the Rev. Henry M. Mühlenberg.
  2. Sarah Gorgas ~• note that at least two in the Garges famiily was of Old Goshenhoppen as well. (Still searching for her husband as of Feb, 2025)
  3. Kithe (?).... March
  4. Susan Heebner, née Smith
  5. John Issac (Jacob) (?)

~ source : a copy of a hand-written note by Hannah Bean (Heebner)

• Buried with his wife in Pikeland Church yard, Chester County

" Lived in Upper Hanover. He and his two brothers were members of Washington's Army. John Smith was a teamster driving a baggage wagon. He was a miller by trade and owing to his knowledge of the business was made flour inspector when the Army laid at Valley Forge. These facts were given me (Hannah Heebner) by Mamma {Susannah Barndollar Heebner}. "Uncle Joshua said that grandfather and his wife were were buried in Pikeland Church yard, Chester County. Uncle Joshua {Heebner} is 86 years old and over. He remembered that a man brought the information of the death of grandfather {John Smith} to his mother {Susanna Smith Heebner} while his father {Christopher Heebner} was in Market and she wept. He was then about 4 years old which would make the year of the death of John Smith about 1813'"." <~ from a letter in Hannah Heebner Bean's hand dated Feb. 12, 1895

•• This record contributed by Mary (Bean) Rogers Mary Rogers (Bean)

~• through Mike van Beuren, Mary Roger's Great nephew

For those who are interested in the Goshenhoppen of the past there is a museum and folk festival


Note: I was not able to find him in the DAR public database as a Patriot of the American Revolution. (Faustine Darsey). answer by MMvB~• German volunteers going John/Johannes/johan.. Smith/Schmidt/Schmitt are not easy to trace

"John and his two brothers†† served George Washington in the Revolution. John Smith was a teamster, driving a baggage wagon. He was a miller by trade and, owing to his knowledge of the business, was made flour inspector when the Army laid (sic) at Valley Forge." oftentimes teamsters, especially if they were not Anglos, were not credited with DAR/SAR designations early on.

Lately they are getting credit:

perhaps a close relative of as Johann Jost Schmid

~ source : a copy of a hand-written note by Hannah Bean (Heebner)

• Buried with his wife in Pikeland Church yard, Chester County

" Lived in Upper Hanover. He and his two brothers were members of Washington's Army. John Smith was a teamster driving a baggage wagon. He was a miller by trade and owing to his knowledge of the business was made flour inspector when the Army laid at Valley Forge. These facts were given me (Hannah Heebner) by Mamma {Susannah Barndollar Heebner}. "Uncle Joshua said that grandfather and his wife were were buried in Pikeland Church yard, Chester County. Uncle Joshua {Heebner} is 86 years old and over. He remembered that a man brought the information of the death of grandfather {John Smith} to his mother {Susanna Smith Heebner} while his father {Christopher Heebner} was in Market and she wept. He was then about 4 years old which would make the year of the death of John Smith about 1813'"." <~ from a letter in Hannah Heebner Bean's hand dated Feb. 12, 1895

•• This record contributed by Mary (Bean) Rogers Mary Rogers (Bean)

~• through Mike van Beuren, Mary Roger's Great nephew

Ongoing Research

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/239619114/mary-smith is the right religion and place to have been Johannes' mother

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Johannes Schmidt's Timeline

1760
1760
1770
May 11, 1770
Pennsylvania, Colonial America
1812
1812
Pennsylvania, United States

Sone say that he and hus wife died at Hempfield, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania, United States but this does not make sense, especially when we read the account handed down form the eye-witness Joshua Heebner... who was about 4years old when news came in that Johannes Schmidt had died..

Tradition has it that sometime after 1785, Johannes and his wife moved to Upper Hanover from Goshenhoppen. (See of the Rev. HMM March 1785)

1826
1826
Saint Peter's Pikeland United Church of Christ Cemetery, 1193 Clover Mill Road, Chester Springs, Chester County, PA, United States

The Old Goshenhoppen cemetery would be a candidate but there is a dispute: His descendant Hannah Bean (Heebner) wrote about his burial in 1895:

"Uncle Joshua said that grandfather and his wife were were buried in Pikeland Church yard, Chester County. Uncle Joshua {Heebner} is 86 years old and over. He remembered that a man brought the information of the death of grandfather {John Smith} to his mother {Susanna Smith Heebner} while his father {Christopher Heebner} was in Market and she wept. He was then about 4 years old which would make the year of the death of John Smith about 1813'"." <~ from a letter in Hannah Heebner Bean's hand dated Feb. 12, 1895

A possible relative by marriage would be there: George Jacoby:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/20203230/georg-lorentz-jacoby#v...

and some "Gerges" aka Gorgas? family

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Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
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