Welcome John Sparkman as a new SA Curator.

Started by Sharon Doubell on Wednesday, March 28, 2012
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Welcome John Sparkman as our latest SA Curator: He says about himself:

"My interest is not specifically in research as a main thrust, but in assisting various Family and Non-Family to overcome hurdles being experienced in understanding the workings of Geni.com with a view to linking into the “Big Tree”. I have a cynical view that “collecting” famous relatives is a no-no unless there is a logical link and purpose to claiming a connection. Far better to preserve and link the “common folk” (for want of a better expression) as it is they that founded the families across the world and opened up the various continents."

I have an interest in projects such as “Germans in Kaffraria”, “1820 Settlers”, “Early English Settlers”.

.My aim is to collect data and research done by various family groups (e.g. Robertson, Caldwell, Kannemeyer, Vercueil, Ballantine, Sparkman, Hamilton, Miller and many more) and integrate them into Geni and in the process link up fragmented small family groups into an integrated whole.

In due course, once I have caught up with the current activities, I plan to initiate a project styled “South African Railways – Past employees and their experiences”, but that is somewhat down the track.

John - yell when you start the SA Railways project - my grandpa, Joel Michael Doubell worked for the railways - (after being mayor of Uitenhage) - and my father remembers that he would get an annual free trip to the seaside for his family as a perk.

Welcome John "Sparky", 49th cousin 23 times removed. Glad to have you on board!

Welcome 7th cousin. I appreciate your hepful and logical approach!

Thanks everyone for your good wishes and kind words.

John

John Sparkman, please check & edit my entry for you on our Introduction site:
http://www.geni.com/projects/South-Africans-Geni-Landing-Site-WELKO...

John speaks ENGLISH
• Interested in assisting with understanding the workings of Geni, with a view to preserving and linking 'the common folk' into the “Big Tree”. Works in areas: “Germans in Kaffraria”, “1820 Settlers”, “Early English Settlers” "SA Railways" & with lines of: Robertson, Caldwell, Kannemeyer, Vercueil, Ballantine, Sparkman, Hamilton, Miller

Welcome, John

Hi John,
As S.A. Curator would you be able to influence Geni into 'loosening' their hold on place names etc. in South Africa....so many of my family members are recorded as being born, married in died in incorrect places on Geni as the programme will not accept anything other than that which is programmed into it....it is so irritating!! For instance my brother was born at home at 2 Mount Ayliff Street, St. Helena Gold Mine, Welkom, Orange Free State, Union of South Africa....Nothing like that can be entered!! I also find it very irritating when people use the incorrect names for towns, provinces or countries....the names should be recorded AS THEY WERE AT THE TIME OF the occurrence (birth, marrige or death)....it really irritates me when someone is said to have been born in Gauteng when they were born in Johannesburg, Transvaal, Union of South Africa....O.K.....one does need to know when the country went from individual colonies to the Union of South Africa to the Republic of South Africa but surely that is all part and parcel of family history research....it is part of the History we should know.
I have a number of famous ancestors....I didn't go looking for them, I found them as a result of my research!
I hope you enjoy your new role. Best wishex Tombi Peck aka Chloris Mary Irwin Peck born Dees.

Private User, are you saying that the pull down option to edit birth location details doesn't allow you to add: 2 Mount Ayliff Street, St. Helena Gold Mine, Welkom, Orange Free State, Union of South Africa?

Hang on, I'm going to try an experiment...

Testing Location Details Entry Flexibility

Nope, it's possible - Thombi. Take a look at the above profile, I did it :-)

Here's HOW:
You click on the blue writing 'Edit Location Details' under Birth Location; enter the specific details you want, and then MAKE SURE you click on SAVE & CLOSE or SAVE & CONTINUE at the bottom of the page.

That should save it as a location option that the programme can suggest next time too.

Let me know if this works for you. I'm assuming it's not something Geni removed as from non-Pro members as an option in their effort to become financially viable :-(

As to correct location names -Private User is a specialist in that area. Maybe she can copy the discussion and project links to her work here.

Side point: I finally managed to have myself added to our common relative - Jan Smuts - so I can now add you as a manager if you'd like. Methinks your first hand knowledge of the family should mean you watch over the profile too :-) Let me know.

Sharon, you only have those options if you pay for the Genie 'whatsamacallit' which they continually advertise. You cannot do it if you are just a Jo Blogs like me who don't pay to 'join their gang'! I cannot afford to pay for the Genie Pro-Genie whatsit...I subscribe to Ancestry.com & Findmypast and that's all I can afford.
Anyway, as I don't subscribe to their programme I've exceeded the number of people I'm allowed on the tree by many, many hundreds as that is a recent restriction.

Ahhh :-(. :-(
Send me the links and what you want added and I'll do it for you. It might be possible cos we're in the same Family group.

John rather late than never. I am so pleased to welcome you on board the SA curator team. I hope you will be very happy with us sometimes mad people.

Thombi after this weekend I will also be able to help if you send links.

Welcome John - you work hard at all this,; the more curators in our South African tree the better I say.
On a more personal note you and your wife were married in the same lovely Church as I was in Bloemfontein, for me, long ago, That's almost better than you being my fifty thousand cousin's wife's uncle's nephew or whatever! A nice link,.

Thanks Carolle,
My what a small world and now we are continents apart - it is a lovely Church.

Thanks for the good wishes and I am still finding my feet as regards the new role - a bit daunting but hopefully I will be able to continue contributing.

On a more personal Family note, I must really take time to contact George Dommisse (Dr) in Cape Town as I believe he is the custodian of the Dommisse (and naturally Malan) family data.

Regards

John

@tombi
Sorry that I have just read your post re place names now.

Sharon and Judith have offered to help with the manual input and I will also do my share - but I have noticed this too and where the deviation is too great I have manually input the place names. e.g. Salisbury, Rhodesia means more as far as ancestors go than Harare, Zimbabwe.
However, I have preferred to annotate it as Harare (formerly Salisbury) as this enables someone to ascertain where it is in the current scheme of things, as a search for Salisbury will lead you right up the garden path.
Certainly, I have captured London, UK and once Geni inserts it's version, I have edited it and added the street name etc as appropriate.

I have just tested the edit ability using a relative's login who is only a Basic User.
I could quite easily edit and change the place names.

Please try again using the helpful guidelines from Sharon and let us know.

Regards

John

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