Richard III of England - Looking for Richard III's body

Started by Justin Durand on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
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9/12/2012 at 6:50 AM

Looks like archaeologists might have found the body of Richard III.

Private User
9/12/2012 at 7:38 AM

A truly astonishing find - if the DNA tests establish the connection to Richard III
The archaeologist most be exceedingly excited, as Indeed we would be :)
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9/13/2012 at 11:15 AM

hmm.....Richard III of England is your 12th cousin 13 times removed!

9/13/2012 at 1:44 PM

1st cousin, 18 times removed. Should I get my brother to contribute yDNA for the very excited archeologist's match? :):).

9/15/2012 at 2:06 PM

We talked about this today with our guide who leads a Richard III tour. She had not heard :)

A Canadian family who can name the king as one of their direct ancestors is providing the DNA evidence that will conclusively prove whether the remains belong to the late monarch.

9/17/2012 at 4:38 PM

According to Geni, he's my 1st cousin, 16 times removed. Enrique Treat Gleason-Aguiluz, Esq.
You → USAF Maj. Fred Treat Gleason-Carlson
your father → Frederick Treat Gleason
his father → Emma Treat
his mother → Samuel B. Treat
her father → Lydia Treat (Nash)
his mother → Ann Nash
her mother → Sgt. Isaac Skinner
her father → Joseph Skinner
his father → Mary Skinner
his mother → Joseph Loomis, Sr.
her father → Agnes Lingwood
his mother → John Lingwood, of Braintree
her father → Mary Wilson
his mother → Susan Jocelin
her mother → Anne (Anna) Josselyn
her mother → Baroness Margaret Neville,
her mother → Edward Neville, Baron Bergavenny
her father → Cecily Neville, Duchess of York
his sister → Richard III of England
her son

9/17/2012 at 4:50 PM

Through my mother's side, he's my 2nd cousin, 17 times removed.

Richard III of England
→ Cecily Neville, Duchess of York
his mother → Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland
her mother → John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset
her brother → Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots
his daughter → James Stewart, 1st Earl of Buchan
her son → Agnes Stewart, Countess of Bothwell
his daughter → Agnes Charteris (Maxwell)
her daughter → John Charteris, 7th of Amisfield
her son → Sir Robert Charteris, 8th of Amisfield
his son → Sir John Charteris, 9th Lord of Amisfield
his son → Margaret Charteris of Amisfield
his daughter → Sir Alexander Kirkpatrick, Lord of Kirkmichael and Conheath
her son → William "Thomas" Kirkpatrick of Conheath, Last Lord of Kirkmichael
his son → Robert Kirkpatrick of Over & Nether Glenkiln
his son → William Kirkpatrick of Conheath & Newton
his son → John Kirkpatrick of Conheath & Ostend
his son → William Escott Kirkpatrick
his son → Edward Thomas Kirkpatrick
his son → Eduardo Berlioz-Kirkpatrick (Kirkpatrick)
his son → Matilde Victoria Berlioz-Ulloa (Kirkpatrick-Duran)
his daughter → Gloria Maria Gleason (Aguiluz-Berlioz)
her daughter

9/18/2012 at 1:02 AM

Richard III of England is your first cousin 17 times removed.

Can't afford pro, so this is all I can see.

9/19/2012 at 9:34 AM

@ Alice Rose Archer, my 10th cousin, once removed: I understand that you cannot view your lineage to King Richard III of England and so I've taken the liberty to post it on your behalf. Your lineage to King Richard III of England is as follows:

Richard III of England
→ Cecily Neville, Duchess of York
his mother → Ralph de Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland
her father → Philippa de Neville, Baroness Dacre
his daughter → Joan D'Acre, Baroness Clifford
her daughter → Sir John de Clifford, 9th Lord Clifford
her son → Henry de Clifford, 10th Lord Clifford, Lord Vescy
his son → Margaret De Clifford
his daughter → Jane de Radcliffe, Baroness of Ogle
her daughter → Anne Russell
her daughter → Mary Anne (Russell) Roote
her daughter → John Thomas Root (Roote), Sr.
her son → Caleb Root, Sr., MD
his son → Caleb ROOT, Jr.
his son → Enoch Root
his son → Lydia Hadsell
his daughter → G. Hadsell
her son → N. Hadsell
his son → H. Hollinger
his daughter → N. Archer
her daughter → E. Archer
her son → A. Archer
his daughter

Take care and have a wonderful day,

your cousin,

Enrique Treat Gleason-Aguiluz

9/19/2012 at 11:11 PM

Thank you, cousin, so much. When I get a steady income going again, I will get a PRO account. Wish there was a way to repay your kindness. Sincerely, Alice Archer :)

9/20/2012 at 10:45 AM

my link to my 1st cousin 18 x removed
Richard III of England
Cecily Neville, Duchess of York his mother Sir George de Neville, 1st Baron Latimer her brother
Sir Henry Neville, Baron of Latymer his son
Thomas de Neville his son Ellen Neville
his daughter Catherine Winslow (Bucke)
her son Edward Winslow, Sr.
his daughter → Margaret Hicks (Winslow)
her daughter → Margaret Griswold (Hicks)
her son → Lieutenant Francis Griswold
his daughter → Deborah Griswold
her son → Joseph Crane
his son → Maj Thaddeus Crane
his son → Peter Crane
his daughter → Sarah Douglas
her son → Samuel Douglas, Jr.
his son henry douglas
his daughter marion lapoint
her son g donald lapoint
his daugther and me michael mccann

2/3/2013 at 1:52 PM

On Monday 4th February, scientists will announce results of tests to determine whether a battle-scarred skeleton found in a sarcophagus under a parking lot in Leicester [near Bosworth Field] belongs to 15th-century King Richard III of England.

Researchers have compared DNA samples with other samples taken from a London cabinet-maker identified as a 17th great-grand-nephew of Richard III's elder sister.

Private User
2/3/2013 at 5:44 PM

Poor old Richard - he had everything to make a good king except the one thing no ruler can do without: luck. His was mostly bad, and that's almost always fatal.

2/4/2013 at 2:51 AM

A skeleton found beneath a Leicester car park has been confirmed as that of English king Richard III.

2/4/2013 at 4:39 AM

Its been confirmed that its Richard the 3rd! yay! Hes my 17th great Uncle on my moms side and my 1st cousin once removed on my fathers side :)

2/4/2013 at 4:40 AM

oops I ment 1st cousin 18 times removed on my fathers side

Private User
2/4/2013 at 6:50 AM

The researchers used DNA from Joy Ibsen. She doesn't appear in Geni though.
I just searched around. Bingo!

Private User
2/4/2013 at 7:15 AM

I compared the information in the link above to Geni.

Katherine Swynford, Duchess of Lancaster
Catherine de Roet
Duchess of Lancaster
Ofir Friedman you are the MP. I wanted to mention that there is a difference in birth year and first name that you may want to look into.

Philippa de Roet - listed as the father of Joan Beaufort - Geni has a different father.

Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland
Countess of Westmorland
Ofir Friedman - birth year on profile is circa 1379. Difference with the table

Anne Leger, Duchess of Exeter

Anne Manners
Heather (Fachet) Bond - Birth Year doesn't match

Katherine Constable
Private User - Birth year doesn't match, but link has circa

The line in Geni ends there. This page:
has a ton of information missing on Geni. I'll add some of the information later, unless someone else beats me to it (which would be fine)

Richard III Plantagenet, King of England is my 9th cousin 17 times removed.

Private User
2/4/2013 at 7:26 AM

Private User I found this one and merged it into the line
Katherine Constable

2/4/2013 at 7:31 AM

I wonder if they tested his yDNA. If so, we can expect a surge of claims to Plantagenet ancestry. Comments on this article suggest that four Somerset males, descendants through an illegitimate line, might be tested. If so, that's bigger news for the genealogical community than Richard III himself.

Private User
2/4/2013 at 7:42 AM

I added the line down to Michael Ibsen. Hopefully, the cache pics them up quickly so anyone searching Geni for the line can find it.

Private User
2/4/2013 at 9:01 AM

I am already connect to the Plantagenet line via both legitimate and illegimate lines. So I don't need Richard . But it's interesting anyway.

2/4/2013 at 9:07 AM

Doing some more looking. They know that his mtDNA is Haplogroup J. They haven't yet been able to extract his yDNA, nor do they know yet whether it will be possible.

Private User
2/4/2013 at 9:09 AM

I always liked Richard, and thought he got a raw deal from the historians and especially from Shakespeare. :-P (Let's face it, Will of Avon didn't give a toot for "historical accuracy" - all he cared about was the entertainment value, and he usually delivered on that in spades.)

This opinion was firmly cemented by Josephine Tey's "The Daughter of Time" - which illustrates not only the fun, but also some of the possible pitfalls, of historical research. It's fiction, but a first-rate read anyhow.

2/4/2013 at 9:16 AM

I belonged to the Richard III society for many years. For anyone who is interested in that period, their journal is an amazing resource for details about the period. So much detail about the people and their lives!

Private User
2/4/2013 at 9:18 AM

Justin: figures it would be Haplogroup J. That one really gets around.

Private User
2/4/2013 at 9:32 AM

Seems Richard III is my 5th cousin 15 times removed, at the present state of my family tree. I guess I'm cool with that. :-)

(PS: yes, I'm Haplogroup J also - don't know if it's the same flavor. Probably not. :-)

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