Halvor Knudsen - Charles M. Schulz Norway connection

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2/19/2013 at 5:37 PM

The American cartoonist, Charles Schulz, is descended from a Norwegian mother. I have been trying to find a way to attach him to the world tree and have hit a brick wall. Charles Monroe Schultz was the artist that did the comic strip called "Charlie Brown".
Any help on this would be very welcome.

Günther Kipp

Harald Tveit Alvestrand

I think that I have his lineage correct up to this point.
Halvard Knutsson Rysstad
But wouldn't mind someone looking at it to see if they agree with what was done so far.

2/19/2013 at 5:42 PM

Actually the Comic strip was called "Peanuts". The main character was "Charlie Brown".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanuts

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2/19/2013 at 10:58 PM

I notice that you found the baptism of the son Torjus on familysearch.org, giving us the location Evje, Aust-Agder, Norway.

Try finding the original document for that since it includes more text like the name of the godparents, which usually are family.

2/19/2013 at 11:26 PM

Fun stuff! I made Charles M. Schultz an MP.
The name "Halverson" seems to be an Americanism, probably one of the famous Ellis Island renames - the name on Torjus' baptism is "Halvorsen", which is because his father was named Halvor.

Have you found the records on when this branch emigrated to the US?

2/19/2013 at 11:43 PM

Unfortunately the Familysearch record for Torjus is wrong - it gives his baptism date as 13 sept 1850, and that was a Friday. The church books for that time at Evje ( http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=793&idx_id=79... ) show baptisms on the 15th, but not on the 13th. Neither is there a Torjus born on the 13th.

So I guess the year is wrong. Still searching.

2/20/2013 at 12:37 AM

I'm admitting defeat for today. I haven't been able to find Dena in census records before she married Charles' father either.
Any records you have covering her would be wonderful!

2/20/2013 at 7:31 AM

As you will se you will get some more information when opening up the specific link about Tojus' baptism on FS: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NW2J-LJV

You will se that the batchnumber starts with an I and not the common C (Christening) or M (Marriage).

And at the bottom it is written: item p 280, which usually means that the information is on page 280 in the source.

So when opening page 280 in the possible source, you will find his confirmation as number 10: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=793&idx_id=79... He's living on the farm Kleveland.

It say that Torjus is born on a farm in Bykland, but I didn't find him in the churchbooks for Bykland either, so I widened my search and found a candidate in Valle which is further up the valley, nr. 58 baptized in Hylestad church: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=835&idx_id=83...

Targeir, born Sept. 13th 1850, bap: Sept 22nd. Parents: Farmer Halvor Knuds. Ryssestad and Wife Mari Targeirsdtr.

And to check that this is correct I looked up the census for Evje for 1865 and on the farm Kleveland I find them: http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&siden...

2/20/2013 at 11:24 AM

Hooray Remi!

I entered your links into the profiles, and searched a bit - I have two candidates for the baptism of Mari Targeirsdatter, both in Setesdal. Common pair of names in those days!

2/20/2013 at 5:25 PM

Most of what I was able to piece together on Charles Schulz came from this biography I skimmed through quickly yesterday. Then I tried to suppliment it with familysearch. I'm afraid It doesn't have a lot of sources I could attach.....besides the book.

http://books.google.com/books?id=omiHL5hnqLcC&pg=PA11&lpg=P...

2/20/2013 at 5:45 PM

Thanks for all the help!

2/20/2013 at 6:29 PM

I'm wasn't sure if this was anything that applies, but it came up when I was goggling some of the names.....
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_list.asp?jo=1581

2/21/2013 at 2:44 AM

Halvor Knudsen isn't relevant, because we know he died in Norway. I've tried searching the registry of emigrants from Kristiansand, but did not find them. If you can figure out from the biography when Torjus/Targeir and Anna Sophie emigrated, and if they married before or after emigrating, that wold help a lot in searching.

2/21/2013 at 3:17 AM

According to the biography (the book listed above that I added a link to) "Dena's father Torjus Halverson had been brought from Norway as a small child in 1866. The family had no money and lived with relatives in Martell, a farming town in Wisconsin."

2/21/2013 at 3:23 AM

Harald, I read what you wrote in Halvor Knudsens profile. The farm name he is born on is Hougen. His mothers name is Joraand Bjugsdatter. You will find Joraand here in 1801, no. 954: http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&siden...

2/21/2013 at 3:43 AM

Here is Knud Halvorsen and Joraand Biugsdatters marriage, second bottom one on the right page in Valle churchbook: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9870&idx_id=9...

28 June 1812 Ung. (Bachelor) Knud Halvorsen Broche, P. (Maid) Joron Biugsd. ibd. (same as earlier = Broche). Best men: Augund Halvorsen Broche, John Biugsen Broche.

1/18/2016 at 12:31 AM

Reviving an old thread:

I have some doubt about the "Torjus from Valle" theory. There's a Torjus Halvorsen in Valle having children in 1881:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7PY-93F

Is it possible that the Evje Torjus is someone else?

1/18/2016 at 2:07 AM

The father of Dena got Halvorsen as a family surname when he arrived US. In Norway he was Torjus Olsen Veum = Torjus, son of Ole, from Veum. His parents were Ole Halvorsen and Aasne Torjusdatter. They emigrated from Veum in Fyresdal, Telemark in 1866.

Fyresdal, Ministerialbok nr. I 5 (1855-1871), Fødte og døpte 1862, side 63. 
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1361&idx_id=1...

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038147002598

1/18/2016 at 2:14 AM

Thanks Harald!
I'lll make sure Dena's father is changed.
Where's the information about Dena's father fetched from?

1/18/2016 at 3:51 AM

I have now changed Dena's father, moved all the children over, and disconnected the other Halvor.

I see that http://www.geni.com/people/Charles-M-Schulz/600000001 hasn't been tagged in this discussion yet - adding the tag so that it will be listed under his "discussions" tab.

1/18/2016 at 3:51 AM

Sorry, Charles M. Schulz is the full link.

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