Piet Retief, Voortrekker Leader - Daughter s name: Debora Jacoba Or Debora Jacomina?

Martin Andreas Karl (Dries) Potgieter you seem to be saying there are two different profiles for the same woman on the tree. Am I understanding you correctly? Are you trying to merge them and make a Data Conflict decision?

The only person who refers to her (in brackets) as Debora Jacoba (Jacomina) Retief is Carl Michael Dollmann

Volgens die George Doopboek is dit Debora Jacoba. Haar inskrywing is hier : https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12058-39958-45?cc=1392...

Volgens die navorsing gedoen deur die Hugenote Gedenkmuseum navorsers in 1997 vir my oorlede skoonma wat se ma 'n nooi Retief was, stesame met al my ander navorsing stem ek saam met Louis en Francois, dit is inderdaad Debora Jacoba. EK sal egter oo inmy Geskiedenis van Piet Retief kyk en terugkom na julle.
Juds

Wikipedia agrees with you all too:
Children
• Debora Jacoba (1815-1901)
• Jacobus Francois (1816-)
• Magdalena Margaretha (1820-)
• Pieter Cornelis (1823-38)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piet_Retief,

so does B.Cilliers in Genealogieë van die afrikaner families in natal. page 300, 364 and 495

Ek werk deur die Meyer boom en het toe op die Debora Jacomina Retief afgekom.
Debora Jacoba Retief se profiel lyk vir my deur mekaar. Daar het sy n dogter Magdalena Johanna Pretorius. (Swart Matiens se kind) terwyl sy onder die Meyers as Lucas Petrus Meyer b1c6d2e5f1 se dogter voorkom
Haar bynaam daar is "Blinde Lenie". Wat is reg?

Dries, dit lyk vir my of die profiel van Magdalena Johanna eers verkeerdelik as die dogter van Swart Martiens ingevoer is en dat die profiel later verander is om haar die dogter van Lucas Pieter Meyer te maak sonder om haar van te verander. Ek het haar van nou na Meyer verander. Hopelik lyk die prentjie nou minder deurmekaar vir jou.

Louis,
Dit is regso dankie. Help my asb gou met die een: Lucas Johannes Meyer
b1c6d2e6 Trou op 10/21/1819 met Sara Johanna de Lange as eerste vrou en op 4/5/1817 met Anna Maria Greyling as tweede vrou. Die datums of iets is nie reg nie. Sy kinders se geboorte datums is; 9/16/1811 4/10/1812 8/14/1815 Dit is voor altwee sy huwelike. Ek werk uit SAG.

Dries, ek is helaas geen Meyer kenner nie. Private sal mees waarskynlik van beter hulp kan wees as ek.

Martin kan ek more kyk. Merk hom rooi of herinner by my judimeyer@mweb.co.za.

Judi is heel te nuuskierig: Vinnig uit my bronne:
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Te vinniog gedruk
Judi is heel te nuuskierig: Vinnig uit my bronne:
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En weereens:
SV33b1c6d2e6 Lucas Johannes Meyer » 26.2.1792, x Sara Johanna de Lange b10c1 Sara Johanna de Lange. » 17.9.1797, x Lucas Johannes Meyer

Hopelik antwoord dit die vraag. Laat ek liewer my Foto's wat ek Vrydag in die Argief afgeneem het gaan merk.

Juds

Vir Greyling het ek hierdie rekord
c1 Anna Maria Greyling » 30.9.1775, x Johannes Arnoldus Botma

en hierdie een
c2 Anna Maria Greyling » 3.4.1763, x P. Erasmus

Dus kan ek asseblief vra vir 'n link .

Dankie
Judi

Martin Andreas Karl (Dries) Potgieter, volgens die informasie op die profiel van Sara Johanna de Lange is sy en Lucas blykbaar op 21 Oktober 1810 in Graaff-Reinet getroud :
"Lucas Johannes Meyer was christened 26 FEB 1792, died 18 MAY 1864 in "Boschhoek", Newcastle. He married Sara Johanna de Lange 21 OCT 1810 in Graaff-Reinet, daughter of Adriaan de Lange and Gesina Nel. She was christened 17 SEP 1797. He married Catharina Elizabeth Geertruy Fourie 30 APR 1859 in Ladysmith. She was christened 4 NOV 1804."

I have had a go at sorting the Meyer tree, please have a look and help out were possible....some work to do on the children of Lucas Johannes Meyer and Sara Johanna de Lange, Anna Maria Greyling

Lukas Johannes Meyer

Lucas Meyer bic6d2e6, Dankie Donovan. Dit lyk nou vir my reg.\\

LOUIS , Kon die troue van Lucas soos bo nie sommer n laat derde Huwelik met Catharina Elizabeth Geertruy Fourie op 30/4/1859 gewees het nie.. Hy is 1864 oorlede.

Sharon Doubell

It would appear that my source was incorrect in regard to {Piet Retief's daughter's name. Her correct names are Debora Jacoba Retief. According to my sources she was married three time:
1. Lucas Pieter Meyer - 23-03-1832
2. Adolph Landman - 03-12-1839
3. Marthinus Wessels Pretorius - 07-01-1843

The under-mentioned link is to a photograph of her gravestone:
http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1062715

Martin Andreas Karl (Dries) Potgieter

Hi Dries, according to my records Lucas Johannes Meyer was married three times:

21-10-1809 - Sara Johanna de Lange
04-05-1817 - Anna Maria Greyling
30-04-1859 - Catharina Elizabeth Geertruy Fourie

1) Thanks Carl. Your names for her husbands differ slightly to the versions we have on Geni, but you need to give your sources.

2) Calling Private User to Carl's message about Lucas Meyer.

Carl,
I have no answer for you. As You will see out of my discussions from 6/4/13
I suspected from the birth dates of the children that there should have been another wife. I believe that Johan Scholtz and Judi 5 Marais and Donovan Penaluna can solve the puzzle.
Regards Dries Potgieter.

Hi Carl

Please add Catharina Elizabeth Geertruy Fourie as cite your record... or I can do it for you...

Regards