Sir Thomas Randolph - Miss-merge of Thomas Randolph into John FitzRandolph

Started by Carole (Erickson) Pomeroy,Vol. Curator on Wednesday, August 21, 2013
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Dan Cornett - Curator of this profile & other Managers,

It seems Sir Thomas Randolph has been miss-merged at one time and is not connected to his correct parents, nor does he have correct dates.
This would be a MP'd duplicate with the correct dates for Sir Thomas
Thomas Randolph, 1st Earl of Moray
also
Thomas Randolph, of Strathnith
Unknown Profile

His wife Isabel Stewart also has incorrect parents & incorrect dates.
Joan Fitzrandolph

Sir Thomas Randolph, 1st Earl Moray1,2,3,4,5,6,7
M, #3483, d. 20 July 1332
Father Thomas Randolph, Great Chamberlain7 d. b 1306
Mother Isabel de Kilconquhar
Sir Thomas Randolph, 1st Earl Moray married Isabel Stewart, daughter of Sir John Stewart and Margaret de Bonkyll. Sir Thomas Randolph, 1st Earl Moray married Isabel de Ross, daughter of Sir William Ross, 3rd Earl of Ross and Euphemia de Barclay, before 1319; They had 1 daughter (Isabel, wife of Sir Patrick de Dunbar).4,7 Sir Thomas Randolph, 1st Earl Moray died on 20 July 1332 at Musselburgh, East Lothian, Scotland.7
Family 1 Isabel Stewart d. a 15 Jul 1351
Children
Isabel Randolph+2,3,5,6 d. a 20 Jul 1361
John Randolph, 3rd Earl of Moray8 d. 17 Oct 1346
Family 2 Isabel de Ross b. c 1300, d. a 16 Jul 1351
Citations
1.[S416] Unknown author, The Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants, by Gary Boyd Roberts, p. 367; Magna Charta by Wurts, p. 64.
2.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 553.
3.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 535.
4.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 523-524.
5.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 629-630.
6.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 611.
7.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 598-599.
8.[S11568] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. IX, p. 170.
http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p116.htm#i...

The only child of this couple would be John Randolph, the other children are FitzRandolph's and belong to Joan Conyers & John FitzRandolph. Joan Conyers & John FitzRandolph must of been miss-merged with Thomas Randolph & Isabel Stewart as the parents connected are correct for Joan Conyers & John FitzRandolph.

Since there is another profile for Sir Thomas Randolph & his wife Isabel I would propose the names be changed to John FitzRandolph & the wife Joan Conyers.

I'm not sure some of the references follow what the connections on Geni are for the FitzRandolph line.

Carole (Erickson) Pomeroy, Vol. Curator

The child John Randolph 1457-1514 will also need to be disconnected, he does not have the correct dates for the son of Sir Thomas & Isabel but he is connected to Euphemia de Ross, Queen Consort of Scotland who would be the correct wife for him.

Their son John Randall Randolph, Sr. has later dates also, 1470-January 24, 1522.

Please can someone fix this? this profile is to belong to Joan Conyers who married John Fitzrandolph.. please fix it.... they had these kids

Margery Fitz- Randolph

Sir Ralph Fitz- Randolph
1444 – 1517

Rev Christopher Fitz- Randolph
1446 – 1518

John Fitz- Randolph
1450 – 1514
thank you

I've reverted the profiles back to the correct names.

Carole did you field lock the correct names into place?

No, will do so now.

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