Alexander Montgomery, I - Who is the father/parents of Alexander I (1705-1768) http://www.geni.com/people/Alexander-Montgomery/6000000002134188949

Is there a website for this DNA study? If the DNA study has tested enough Montgomery males, they should have a list of haplotypes and that list is usually posted on a website so that descendants can find it and compare results.

Alexander Montgomery had a different haplotype than William. Someone believed to be a direct male descendant of Alexander should be tested to find out which group he is in. Then we compare the descendant's haplotype against all the others who have been tested until you find a match. Provided the test is truly from a descendant of Alexander, his haplotype will fall into Alexander's group.

You can also work backwards - find Montgomery males whose haplotype is known and who predate Alexander, looking for a match.

That's really simplified and I hope it makes sense. While I am knowledgeable in this area, I am far from an expert. I can suggest some other curators who have more skill in this area, if need be.

As for breaking the relationship between Alexander and William here on Geni, have a curator help you with that because, ideally, a statement will be put in the text box at the top of the profile regarding DNA not matching. There's not many characters in those text boxes, but the curator can always say "refer to DNA material on Overview tab. The text box is important so that well-meaning people won't keep reconnecting the two families.

Hugh Montgomery b.1630 d.1710 J2 J-M172

(Supposed father of William of Brigend b 1660)

Alexander b ? 1705 d Orange Co NC 1768 I1 I-M253

From https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Montgomery/default.aspx?sectio...

These are "different" Montgomery lines and not a match.

I would like to disconnect and put in "parents unknown" as apparently they are not known.

Alexander l is a "patriarch" / line starter (earliest known ancestor)

Thanks Maria and Erica for your input.

Now the hunt is on to see if we can find the real parents for Alexander Montgomery I (or as I like to refer to him, Alex I)... Any & all help is & will be appreciated.

What do we do with all of the info in his About section that shows William & Isabella (Burnett) Montgomery were his parents???

I would hold on to it. It is possible, that, there are errors in there, that still connects to our line.

Kenneth

Mike Shuman told me previously, that, he believed Alexander I was a Presbyterian. And that, he probably followed Presbyterian/Scottish naming practices. That is, the 1st born son was named after Alexander's father. The 2nd son would have been named after his mother's father. Followed by, the 3rd son, being named after Alexander's granfather, &, 4th son, being named after his mother's grandfather, & so-on, etc. If this correct, then, we need to be following this pattern, for Alexander's ancestors. Alexander's sons are listed as follows:
1. William - named after his father's father?
2. John - named after his mother's father?
3. Alexander II - named after his father's grandfather?
4. Michael - named after his father's grandfather?
5. James - named after his father's great father?

What do you think?
Kenneth

I have a brother and 4 male 2nd cousins that will all be in Alex I's line. What do I tell these men about getting a Y-DNA test. Please be specific--What do they ask for, where does it need to go, etc??? Then what do we do??? Will the results be sent to them? Three live in different cities in Illinois & one is in Ohio. How do I get the results??? How long will it take to get the results? I know there are different #'s of markers to ask for, so how many would be best to help with the conundrum of who the parents are for this man???

this is my link http://www.geni.com/path/Judy-Rice+is+related+to+Alexander-Montgome...

Instead of testing for 111 markers, have them test F2642. Lou Sherburn's brother did this, &, his results came back positive. So, we are the only 2 F2642 on the Montgomery DNA Project. Also, I suggest that they join the Z140 Project, too. That is a better project for our family. The more we have in both projects, the better chance we have at finding our ancestral line. That is, if the ancient Montgomery is not ours. F2642 is predominantly found in Britain, &, in the coastal areas of Northern Europe, along the North Sea.

Your relatives will get their results sent to them. If they are one of the ones already on the Montgomery DNA Project, &, their results DO come back positive for F2642, ten, it will be reflected on there. William Hartley has been my "tutor", concerning this DNA stuff. He is an administer on the Z140 Project.

For those who have a connection or want to help in discovering who the father & parents are for Alex I (1705), please check out this site. It has a lively discussion and lots of info about this group of Montgomerys who lived in the late 1600's and 1700's in Virginia, NC and Kentucky area.

http://adkinsmetcalffamily.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/alexander-montg...
Skim the top part, but go down to the comments esp. between Kay Anderson & Michael Shuman--both seem VERY knowledgeable on the Montgomerys & have a lot of documentation. I have just spent a couple of hours reading it and now need help getting all of their info organized--still no answer that I could see on this Alexanders parentage...

What a headache---all of those Alexanders, Williams and a bunch of Johns thrown in for good measure just to add to the confusion!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is a ton of info at this site, but I don't know how to best go about organizing it all, plus disagreements on interpretation of some of that info...

Kenneth, you present a logical supposition with the possible names and it does give some options to look for.

I am going to attempt to get my brother and 4 male 2nd cousins (2 are brothers and the other two had mothers that were twins) to get a Y-DNA test done which may add some more info to the gene pool, but don't know how much luck I will have. John Montgomery (1764-1845) is our 4th ggf. His father was Alex II (b. abt 1740) who was the son of Alex I (1705). Which ancestor do I want to have them indicate they are descended from??? I am 99.9% sure of the chain to Alex I.

Is there a cost to join the Montgomery DNA project or the Family Tree DNA project??? I will ask that they get the 37 marker test & know it costs around $150. I have 5 different Kit #'s that Family Tree DNA has used for Montgomerys--do they need to specify one of those or does it matter which kit they use??? Is there anything else I need to know to tell them before I send a message to them about this???

As you can tell, I am a newby about the DNA testing and need some guidance so the info I pass on is clear to someone who has even less knowledge than myself.

Thanks in advance for your help,
Pat

I have labelled my ID info on the Montgomery DNA Project as "Alexander Montgomery 1740 - ? (Nathan 1813-1881)". It really doesn't matter which name your relatives indicate on the list. Most descendants will know who both are. So far, no one has questioned my connection to Alexander's line. In fact, Lou Sherburn brother's upgraded to F2642, it actually enhanced my claim. I used the name above, based on Mike's research of Alexander I. It is free to join this Project, as well as the Z140 Project, &, any other Project you are interested i joining. The latter concerns people who have been found to belong to this group. I belong to both. I belong to several others also, but, I find these 2 more useful to me.

Have your relatives tested with FTDNA, before? Or, will this be their 1st time testing? When they do send in for their test, see if they can also order the test for F2642. This is my terminal, for the moment. Another descendant of Alexander Montgomery II tested F2642, &, came back positive. He is found on the Montgomery DNA Project list, too. So far, there are just 2 of us. I ave contacted others, &, recommended that they too, test this SNP, but, they have not responded to my emails, nor, have they upgraded their test for F2642. If all of yor relatives did both, then, maybe that would encourage the others already on the list.

In your statement "I have 5 different Kit #'s that Family Tree DNA has used for Montgomerys--do they need to specify one of those or does it matter which kit they use???", what do you mean? If you are asking whether or not, your relatives should use one of these, when they test, then, no. If relative will get their own Kit number, when thay recieve their test kit in the mail. These are people's personal Kit numbers, &, results.

Do you know any of the other Montgomerys on the Montgomery DNA list? If so, encourage them to test F2642. That would make for a better showing on bothProject lists. I hope this helps. Are your relatives testing for the 1st time?

Kenneth

I have labelled my ID info on the Montgomery DNA Project as "Alexander Montgomery 1740 - ? (Nathan 1813-1881)". It really doesn't matter which name your relatives indicate on the list. Most descendants will know who both are. So far, no one has questioned my connection to Alexander's line. In fact, Lou Sherburn brother's upgraded to F2642, it actually enhanced my claim. I used the name above, based on Mike's research of Alexander I. It is free to join this Project, as well as the Z140 Project, &, any other Project you are interested i joining. The latter concerns people who have been found to belong to this group. I belong to both. I belong to several others also, but, I find these 2 more useful to me.

Have your relatives tested with FTDNA, before? Or, will this be their 1st time testing? When they do send in for their test, see if they can also order the test for F2642. This is my terminal, for the moment. Another descendant of Alexander Montgomery II tested F2642, &, came back positive. He is found on the Montgomery DNA Project list, too. So far, there are just 2 of us. I ave contacted others, &, recommended that they too, test this SNP, but, they have not responded to my emails, nor, have they upgraded their test for F2642. If all of yor relatives did both, then, maybe that would encourage the others already on the list.

In your statement "I have 5 different Kit #'s that Family Tree DNA has used for Montgomerys--do they need to specify one of those or does it matter which kit they use???", what do you mean? If you are asking whether or not, your relatives should use one of these, when they test, then, no. If relative will get their own Kit number, when thay recieve their test kit in the mail. These are people's personal Kit numbers, &, results.

Do you know any of the other Montgomerys on the Montgomery DNA list? If so, encourage them to test F2642. That would make for a better showing on bothProject lists. I hope this helps. Are your relatives testing for the 1st time?

Kenneth

Patricia, the following comes from a chat with Mike Shuman, 20 Dec 2013
"Michael Shuman Kenneth, first off is do YOU believe what the Documented evidence tells? If so then you should find that Alexander Montgomery who came to Buck Creek in 1745 was also the same that went to Rattlesnake Creek by 1759. When Alexander first came to Buck Creek he came with John Reid Sr. This John Reid Sr. is recorded in 1737/38 as being on or near Octorara Creek in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania with ALEXANDER Montgomery. This is documented by the 1726 land application, when William Holiday (also, Hallowday), mentions his brother-in-law Alexander Montgomery as needing a 200 acre grant of land on Octorara Creek. This evidence links two people by name to your Alexander Montgomery in the year of 1726. Which leads me think that Alexander Montgomery may have been speculating lands in Chester County as early as 1724 or 1725? This William Holiday was of the "Society of Friends." His lineage is well documented. He came to America in 1713 from West Meath Ireland. This West Meath Ireland is where I would begin my research for any Montgomery whom lived in West Meath, Ireland during that time frame?"

John Reid (Reed/Read), was from Wigton, Scotland. If you have the means to search overseas, that may be where the answer lies, in search for Alexander's parents names, &, place of origins.

Thanks Kenneth for all of your info both on the DNA stuff (sent a long email to my bro & cousins today) and for a place to look for more info.

You're welcome. Sorry that I am not able to do extensive research. Especially overseas searches. I don't have any of the pay services. But, I DO think that Mike has some good ideas on where to do further research. Unfortunately, I just can't do more.

I wish there was a way to find the names of men, who, married into the Montgomery family, &, changed his name to Montgomery, back before 1700. I have a feeling this what is what happened. Or, it is possible that an ancestor of ours, whose mother married a Montgomery, who had a child/ren from a previous marriage, or out of wedlock, that, one, or more of these children took the name of Montgomery, as his own. The latter happened more than once. I'm sure. Especially if the child/ren was able to benefit in some way, by doing so. What do you think?

Anything is possible. Like you, I am limited to free internet researching or what ever might be in a library here in Glendale/Phoenix, AZ area. Fixed incomes stink!!!

I was hoping that some Montgomery cousin who has more extensive resources might respond to this discussion with info they have accumulated!!!

Hi Patricia,

How are things your way? Hope all is fine. Below is a chat between myself a Cherokee Facebook friend of mine. She has access to several of the more informational websites, &, gathered a lot of information on our Montgomery line. Some of the info is not relevant to our line, but, she gathered all info she could find, in hopes that I (we) could go through it all, &, pick out what pertains to our line. Please share this info with others who are looking for our line back overseas, & Alexander's lineage.

"Kenneth Montgomery Gogi, when you wrote this "Just so you know, Kenneth, I am always on the look-out for Crittenden or Montgomery. I ran across a really bizarre way of spelling Crittenden the other day on a census. It was spelled something like: Critdendon. Good grief.", keep I mind, in reference to my Montgomery line, that, I recently received a photocopy of a land application from another Montgomery researcher on Facebook's "Montgomery Genealogy", that an aunt of an Alexander Montgomery, &, who was married to a Barbara Harris, died in Franklin Co., Indiana, in 1822. This aunt applied for land, through Alexander's dad, John's pension. I think. She did this in 1845. On the document, she lists her siblings. It also names, the children of her brother, the Alexander named above, as well as his children. The 3rd child is a Nathaniel Montgomery. Though no other dates are listed to verify this Nathaniel as my "Nathan", it is strongly believed, that they are one, &, the same. Remember, my Nathan's 1st son, was born in Indiana in 1832. Several other members of this family, doubt that we are related, but, they do NOT have this document on Geni, nor, on Ancestry, that I can find. But, they don't list Nathaniel on their trees, either. I believe I this is a positive sign. But, Alexander's gg-grandpa, cannot be traced further back. This gg-grandpa is named Alexander Montgomery, as well. He was born about 1705. His information can be found online. Unfortunately, his line does not go any further back. So, I am at a loss, as to where the latter was born. Don't know who his parents were, neither. My Haplogroup is I1. There are only about 11 of us on the Montgomery DNA Project. So, it appears that, my ancestor took the name of Montgomery, at some point prior to 1705. Bummer. Several people have the latter Alexander's wife's name as Isabella Burnett. Another researcher, believes that this is incorrect formation, based on the documents that he has researched. Back then, Montgomerys from different Haplogroups, lived in close proximity to each other. And, it was common to find many shared the same 1st name, as well, making it difficult to know who was related to who. Another BUMMER! 40 minutes ago · Like · 1..
Gogi Agvlisgv In the 3 years I've known you on FB, Kenneth, you have gathered up piece-by-piece records to add to your "bank" of records. You will find more, Kenneth, because you are PERSISTENT and never give up. 36 minutes ago · Like · 1..
Kenneth Montgomery It must be the weather down here. It is SO diverse, &, can have a great effect on one's mind. 27 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv Kenneth, I am sure you have this info, but in case you don't: Alexander Montgomery
Added by shannoncastle1 on 15 Jun 2008 Originally submitted by marksummers2007 on 9 Feb 2008
BIOGRAPHY: The Origin of "Old Alex" Montgomery Assessing the Connections between Alexander Montgomery (died Orange Co., NC) and William Montgomerie of Brigend, Scotland (and later Freehold, East Jersey)
By J. David Montgomery, CMS 1770.
"It is my intention to document pieces of evidence that might suggest that the Alexander Montgomery (died Orange Co., NC 1767/8) was actually the youngest son of William Montgomerie of Brigend, Scotland and his wife Isabel Burnett. The one piece of definitive information has yet to surface but I think that the growing body of circumstantial evidence will speak for itself."
"In the Genealogical History of the Family of Montgomery compiled by Thomas Harrison Montgomery in Philadelphia, PA 1863, he extensively documents the Montgomerys from Roger De Montgomerie up to others of the nineteenth century. Particularly he notes William Montgomerie of Brigend, Scotland, his wife Isabel Burnett and their seven children. Much detail is given for all the children with the exception of his youngest son Alexander. For Alex the only statement is, "Alexander, who is said to have died unmarried." This short unassuming statement really says more than at first glance. First, the author did not know where Alexander died or he would have so stated. He did not know what became of him after his early days in Freehold or it would have been stated. Lastly, he did not know if he was married. The author's words, "said to have" implies that the information was hearsay at best. I believe that the reason no one knew any more about Alex is because he left the vicinity and probably did not communicate with those who stayed in the Jersey/Pennsylvania area."
"Though I have not found the Will of William of Brigend, it was common practice for most, if not all inheritance to go to the oldest son. Being the youngest son, Alex had no pressing reason to stay in the area. According to T. H. Montgomery's accounts, William and Isabel crossed the ocean for America about 1701-2. Probably Alexander was born just prior to that time. The earliest date that we definitely document our "Old Alex" is April 25, 1745 in Albemarle Co., Virginia when he buys land from John Chiswell of St. Martin Parish, Hanover Co., Virginia. He continues to buy and sell land until he leaves for Orange Co., NC about 1757."
"As the mystery of 'Old Alex's' origins remains unresolved, some pieces of unrelated information may shed some new light on the subject. Much of this information has come my way quite by accident. The first piece was found in the "American Guthrie and Allied Families" book published by the Kerr Printing Co., Chambersburg, Pa., copyright 1933. It notes that the William Montgomery from Logan's Fort, Kentucky had a son, William Jr., who married Jane Dodd and later her sister, Maria Dodd. They lived in Shelby County, Kentucky. There were seven children by the first marriage and two by the second. One of the daughters from the first marriage was Martha Ann Montgomery. She became the second wife of Isaac Newton Guthrie... 'He (Isaac Newton Guthrie) married secondly May 8, 1845, Martha Ann +Montgomery, who was born Jan. 27, 1827; was a daughter of William Montgomery (Jr.), of Shelby County, Kentucky, who was descended from William Montgomery, of Brigend, Scotland, came to America about 1702.' An interesting side note; William Jr.'s sister, Jane, would marry Gen. Casey of Kentucky, and was the Grandmother of Mark Twain."
"But, was the William Montgomery, made famous by the Indian massacre near Logan's Fort in Kentucky in 1780, the same William that was the son of our Alexander? Some researchers are not in agreement on this point."
"In 'Westward into Kentucky, the Narrative of Daniel Trabue', 1981 University of Kentucky Press, Daniel Trabue writes that in November of 1780 he was at the Montgomery Settlement on the Green River (near Logan's Fort) on his way to Virginia. The attack would occur in December of the same year. In his 1827 written account, Daniel Trabue notes that one of William Montgomery's (of Logan's Fort) daughters, Elizabeth or Betty, married her cousin another William Montgomery, later known as Col. Will Montgomery. Then in a footnote added later by Daniel Trabue's son James in 1851, he states, " This William Montgomery, a first cousin of his wife, was a son of John Montgomery and Martha Miller of Amherst County, Virginia. John died in Marion County, Missouri, on November 22, 1832." (*Note 1) This John Montgomery we know to be a son of our 'Old Alex.' Thus the implication is that the Logan's Fort "William" and Old Alex's "William" are one and the same. I also speculate that the claim by this William's grand-daughter, Martha Ann Montgomery Guthrie, that she was a descendant of William of Brigend, Scotland is a plausible statement. As William (of Logan's Fort) was the oldest of Alexander's children, this could explain the likelihood that if any record of his father's family history would be passed down, it might come through one of the older children, like William, who could have actually known or was told about his father's parents."
"In the History of Caswell County 1777-1977 by William S. Powell, 1977, he speaks of Arent Isaacszen Van Hoeck who left the Netherlands in 1648 for New Amsterdam. His son, not named, moved to Freehold, New Jersey. His son, Aaron Van Hook, came to North Carolina by way of Virginia in 1755. Interestingly, when I visited the old lands of Alexander in present-day Caswell County, NC in 1989, I talked to a Mr. Frank Weadon. He and his ancestors have been in the area since those early days. Among many things that he talked about, he mentioned that there was one wealthy planter that lived next to the Montgomerys. This man had a huge estate with slaves numbering in the hundreds. He was a Mr.Van Hook. This man's family was from the same township in New Jersey that William of Brigend lived. Could the Van Hooks have been friends or acquaintances of the Montgomerys from New Jersey?"
(*Note 1) It is curious that James Trabue would add such an almost obscure footnote to his father's narrative in 1851.I believe it can be explained by the following known facts. Daniel Trabue had a sister, Magdalene, who married Edward Clay of Virginia. The Clays had a daughter, Martha that married a John Montgomery of Caswell County, NC. Martha Clay Montgomery was a first cousin to James Trabue. James Trabue likely knew of his cousin's in-laws and had known them for some time, with Martha and John's wedding occurring in 1810 in North Carolina. I believe that it was through this familiarity with these Caswell County Montgomerys that Martha's Cousin James Trabue would add the little known fact about John & Martha Miller Montgomery to his father's account of the 1780 massacre. This is explained by the fact that John Montgomery of Caswell County, NC was a son of James Montgomery, who was a brother to the William Montgomery that was killed by Indians in Kentucky in 1780. So the Caswell County John Montgomery was a first cousin to both the Elizabeth and William Montgomery that married each other as noted in the James Trabue's footnote. Otherwise how and why would James Trabue come about this "new" information. This theory further supports the notion that the Montgomery family of Caswell County, originally Orange County, NC were related to the Montgomery family killed by Indians in Kentucky, through the brothers: William (died KY.), John (died Missouri), and James (died NC.), as noted, all sons of 'Old Alex'."
John Montgomery and wife Martha Clay are 3GrGrandparents of J. David Montgomery.
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Gogi Agvlisgv Alexander Montgomery (1705-1768) - Ireland, Pennsylvania, Virginia, North Carolina
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Kenneth Montgomery Thanks for this information, Gogi. But, the previous comment above about Alexander & Isabella, are believed by Mike Shuman, a prominent Montgomery researcher, to be from the Haplogroup J2. Not related to me. It seems, that, other family members have been mixing the 2 names & combining information that is incorrect. But, the 2nd comment above with dates, is correct, &, is very useful. Thanks.
The John Reid and Alexander Montgomery families appear to be closely related. John Reid was from Co. Down, Ireland and his daughter, Jane, was born in "Droim Mor" (Drumore), Co. Down, Ireland in 1713. These were Scots living in Ireland. Possibly they were even those who had lived there for one or two generations when the Scots established settlements in northern Ireland in the early 1600's. They were Protestants, true to their Scottish heritage. Thousands of "Scot-Irish" emigrated to America in the early 1700's due to political and religious reasons.
OCTORARA CREEK, DRUMORE TOWNSHIP, LANCASTER COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA:
There was a large group of Scot-Irish who established Drumore Township in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.
20 September 1734 - 200 acres - Alexander Montgomery "Mongumery, Alex'r" - near Octomara Creek (Warrantees of Land, County of Lancaster, Pennsylvania)
2 March 1737 - 100 acres - John Reid - Drumore, near Octomara Creek; 9 October 1740 - 200 acres, Sadsbury, branch Octomara
6 February 1738 - Alexdr Montgomery, John Reid Sr., Alexdr Work, John Patton, Wm. Smith - Petition of inhabitants regarding a road near Octomara "Octoraro" Creek.
BUCK CREEK, ROCKFISH SETTLEMENT, ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA (changed to Amherst Co. and now is in Nelson Co.):
25 April 1745 - Alexander Montgomery received land patented to John Chiswell in Rockfish near the "blew" mountains (Blue Ridge Mountain)
August 1746 -Alexander Montgomery was listed in the will of John Reid, which places Alexander and John Reid in Albemarle Co., Virginia. Alexander Montgomery, John Morrison, Samuel Bell and John Small were named to appraise John Reid's estate.
20 February 1752 - Alexander Montgomery's land is listed as adjoining John Small's land.
1762 - Alexander Montgomery Jr sold 250 acres on both side of Buck Creek, (Rockfish, Albemarle Co., Virginia) to his brother-in-law, Robert Barnett.
RATTLESNAKE CREEK, ORANGE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA (changed to Caswell Co):
The Alexander Montgomery's moved to Orange Co., North Carolina (170 acres - Moon's Creek, which is now in Caswell Co., North Carolina) The property was actually on Rattlesnake Creek, Dan River Township, Caswell Co. in northern North Carolina near the Virginia border.
27 July 1767 - Will - Alexander Montgomery - Orange Co., North Carolina
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Gogi Agvlisgv Ultimately your DNA's origins are Nordic. Can we say "VIKING?" 19 minutes ago · Like · 1..
Gogi Agvlisgv This is the earliest "Montgomery" I have (he was one of my great x grandfathers):
Hugues 'Hugh' Hugo de Monte Gomerii' de Montgomery "Earl of Hiemois" Birth 0958 in St Germain de Montgomery, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France Death 1034 in St Foye De Montgomery, Calvados, Normandy, France and he was married to
Sibell Sybil de Crepon Birth abt 0952 in Crépon, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France Death 7 Feb 1046 in France 14 minutes ago · Like · 1..
Kenneth Montgomery If my Haplogroup has so few representatives, then, it is very possible, that, I am not descended from Roger de Montgomery. But then, no one knows what his Haplogroup was. It seems that Henry VIII destroyed many of the Catholic churches in England, &, even had the bodies interned in the crypts, to be strewn about the church grounds. Thus, when the towns people collected the remains, they re-buried them in a common grave, together. So, it is very probable, that, any DNA testing of these remains, could never be used to try & match up with liig descendants. Again, BUMMER. 6 minutes ago · Like..
Kenneth Montgomery Oh! The Hugh above, was the eldest son, of the Roger, that I mentioned. He was killed defending Wales against Viking raiders. Also, my terminal is F2642. It is believed that this SNP was already in the British Isles LONG before the arrival of the Vikings. Perhaps, my ancestor was there during, if not before the arrival of the Romans. But, he was definitely of Norse stock. 3 minutes ago · Like
Kenneth Montgomery Gogi, would you be able to help me a bit, in trying to find Alexander's parents, &, perhaps his connection John Reid. Alexander may have been married twice, as some have suggested, but, a "Mary", last name unknown, is the one he was married to, at the time that Alexander wrote his will in 1767. Mike Shuman states, that, if Alexander was a Presbyterian, then, his 1st born son would have been named after his father, &, his 2nd son would have been named after the mother's father. Alexander's 1st son was named William, while his 2nd son was named John, or, James. So, if a William Montgomery could be found, independent from the Ancestry trees, &, documented evidence could be fond, would be great. The connection to the Montgomery Brigand branch, is not believed to an error, &, may be an attempt by some, to connect back to Britain. But, I don't know. Any of the various theories could be right. It seems that Alexander Montgomery, b. 1705, is the only line of Montgomery I1's found America, thus far. Sure would appreciate your help. 10 hours ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv I captured the first page of immigrants to America by the name of Montgomery and noticed an Isabel Montgomery. See if any of these are to your liking and if you'd like any of these records.
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: James Montgomery Arrival: 1607-1707 - South Carolina
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: John Montgomery Arrival: 1607-1776 – Virginia
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: Thomas Montgomery Arrival: 1607-1776 - Norfolk, Virginia
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: Archibald Montgomery Arrival: 1612-1764 - Nova Scotia, Canada
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: William Montgomery Arrival: 1612-1783 - South Carolina
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: Peter Montgomery Arrival: 1666-1750 - Maryland
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: James Montgomery Arrival: 1670-1700 - South Carolina
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: Charles Montgomery Arrival: 1686-1766 - Jamaica
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: William Montgomery Arrival: 1701 - America
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: Hugh Montgomery Arrival: 1698 - New York, New York
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: James Montgomery Arrival: 1698 - America
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: James Montgomery Arrival: 1698 - Died enroute
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: James Montgomery Arrival: 1698 - United States or West Indies
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: Isabel Burnet Montgomery Arrival: 1702 - New Jersey
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: Isabel Burnett Montgomery Arrival: 1702 - New Jersey
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: Robert Montgomery Arrival: 1702 - New Jersey
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: Robert Montgomery Arrival: 1702 - New Jersey
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: William Montgomery Arrival: 1702 - New Jersey
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger Lists
Name: William Montgomery Arrival: 1702 - New Jersey 9 hours ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv This is for Isabel:
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about Isabel Burnett Montgomery
Name: Isabel Burnett Montgomery Arrival year: 1702 Arrival Place: New Jersey Family Members: Father William; Mother Isabel Burnett Source Publication Code: 9760 Primary Immigrant: Montgomery, Robert
Annotation: Covers era prior to 1855. Compiled from correspondence and monument inscriptions, 17th and, mainly, 18th century. Prepared for the Scottish Genealogical Society. 6,470 emigrants.
Source Bibliography: WHYTE, DONALD. A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA. Vol. 1. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1972. 504p. 2nd pr., 1981.
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Gogi Agvlisgv U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about William Montgomery
Name: William Montgomery Arrival year: 1702 Arrival Place: New Jersey Family Members: Father William; Mother Isabel Burnett Source Publication Code: 9760 Primary Immigrant: Montgomery, Robert
Annotation: Covers era prior to 1855. Compiled from correspondence and monument inscriptions, 17th and, mainly, 18th century. Prepared for the Scottish Genealogical Society. 6,470 emigrants.
Source Bibliography: WHYTE, DONALD. A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA. Vol. 1. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1972. 504p. 2nd pr., 1981.
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Yvonne Mashburn Schmidt The problem with the Vanns seems to be that there were absolutely so many of them, and the names were the same through the generations, that they're difficult to figure out. One lineage of Vanns was rejected initially, because a *rumor* began that they were black, not Indian. I believe the rumor was dispelled at some point, and they were enrolled. Prejudice was very much alive and well everywhere. 9 hours ago · Like · 2..
Gogi Agvlisgv U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about Alexander Montgomery
Name: Alexander Montgomery Arrival year: 1684 Arrival Place: Carolina Source Publication Code: 1639 Primary Immigrant: Montgomery, Alexander
Source Bibliography: DOBSON, DAVID. Directory of Scots Banished to the American Plantations, 1650-1775. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1984. 239p.
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Gogi Agvlisgv That ^ Alexander Montgomery came in 1684, the next one came in:
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about Alexander Montgomery
Name: Alexander Montgomery Arrival year: 1738 Arrival Place: America Source Publication Code: 4971 Primary Immigrant: Montgomery, Alexander
Annotation: Date transportation ordered and intended destination. Includes crime and county where order was enacted. Extracted from Journal of the House of Commons of the Kingdom of Ireland, vol. 7 (1796).
Source Bibliography: McDONNELL, FRANCES. Emigrants from Ireland to America, 1735-1743: A Transcription of the Report of the Irish House of Commons into Enforced Emigration to America. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1992. 134p.
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Gogi Agvlisgv The one who came in 1738 was married to:
U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 about Alexander Hugh Montgomery
Name: Alexander Hugh Montgomery Gender: Male Birth Place: Ir Birth Year: 1705 Spouse Name: Mary Mccullough Marriage Year: 1725 Marriage State: Ir Number Pages:
Gogi Agvlisgv Married in Ireland. 9 hours ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970 about Alexander Montgomery
Name: Alexander Montgomery SAR Membership: 13302 Spouse: Mary Montgomery Children: William Montgomery. 9 hours ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll...
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Gogi Agvlisgv General William Montgomery was born in Londonderry Township, Pennsylvannia on August 3, 1736 and was the son of Alexander Montgomery and Mary. This is on the SAR app, dated 1900 from a descendant. (see above link) 9 hours ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv General William Montgomery married 1) Margaret Novin/Nivin, and 2) Isabella Evans, and 3) Hannah Boyd (no children with #3). 9 hours ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv I cannot stay on long (only short intervals) as my son's computer overheats very quickly. Night. 8 hours ago · Like..
Yvonne Mashburn Schmidt Night! I'm gone, too. 8 hours ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv Just putting this here, Kenneth Montgomery - so I don't lose this info.
William Montgomery Birth 1660 in Maybole, Ayrshire, , Scotland Death 1721 in Allentown, Monmouth, New Jersey, United States married to Isabella Burnett Birth 1650-1660 in Ayrshire, Scotland about an hour ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv Just from this part of researching this family (dates/locations), it looks to me like they were a family of Protestants who migrated from Scotland to Ireland to America. William and Isabella Montgomery were primary immigrants first, coming to America in 1702. Alexander (the one above who was born 1705) was born in Ireland. If he was from this family, William and Isabella would have had to sail back to Ireland, where he was born, then sail back to America. The only record of Alexander Montgomery coming to America after the birth (1705) is the one who married Mary McCullough and came to America in 1738. There is a source on Ancestry which discusses the "Scots-Irish" Montgomeries/Montgomerys. It seems that a Hugh Montgomery "of the Braidstone family" arrived with Sir Hugh Montgomery in Ireland in 1606 and settled in Donaghadie. Also coming with them was Patrick Montgomery. http://interactive.ancestry.com/.../FLHG.../58024...
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Gogi Agvlisgv This one was born later than yours, but I thought I'd show you his grave anyway because he had a cousin by the same name:
Web: International, Find A Grave Index about Col Alexander John Montgomery
Name: Col Alexander John Montgomery Birth Date: 1720 Age at Death: 80 Death Date: 29 Sep 1800 Burial Place: Raphoe, County Donegal, Ireland
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr HYPERLINK "http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=MO...&amp...;
Col Alexander John Montgomery (1720 - 1800) - Find A Grave Memorial
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Kenneth Montgomery Thanks Gogi, for this. But, Mike Shuman believes that this family is another Montgomery family. He stated that the 1st document where Alexander was found in Chester Co., Pennsylvania, Tax List in New London. It is thought that this is my Alexander. Mike doesn't believe this Alexander & the one in Delaware, are the same person. I know, he is NOT the authority on the various Montgomerys, but, he does not use Ancestry, nor other sites for his information. Too many trees do NOT list their references. He basis his gathering techniques, by researching for documents, where-ever he can find it. I found that ALL trees on Ancestry, except 3 or 4, have the Alexander that you just gave me, as my Alexander's parents. The other 3-4, have another pair of parents, form Ireland. 57 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv That Alexander Montgomery is said to be attached to this immigrant record:
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about Alexander Montgomery
Name: Alexander Montgomery Arrival year: 1774 Arrival Place: Virginia Source Publication Code: 1229.10 Primary Immigrant: Montgomery, Alexander
Annotation: Date and port of arrival or date of conviction for transport and port of arrival. Date and place of felon runaways are also provided. Name of ship and other genealogical and historical information may also be provided.
Source Bibliography: COLDHAM, PETER WILSON. The Kings Passengers to Maryland and Virginia. Westminister, MD: Family Line Publications, 1997. 450p.
Page: 246 http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pili354...
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Gogi Agvlisgv There was an "Alexander Montgomery" who was either one person who came back and forth many times (a merchant?) and is most likely the one above, or all the passenger records represent many Alexander Montgomerys coming to America at various times. I believe it is the former. (Read the Find-a-Grave description of that one). 53 minutes ago · Like..
Kenneth Montgomery But, I do NOT discount this person as my Alexander's father. It's the lack of reliable references, is what stops me from completely accepting these 2 as his parents. 52 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv The Alexander Montgomery attached to Pennsylvania info is this one:
Pennsylvania, Land Warrants and Applications, 1733-1952 about Alexr Montgomery
Name: Alexr Montgomery Warrant Date: 6 Jan 1743 Warrant Place: New London, Chester http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=PAWarrants...
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Kenneth Montgomery Gogi, I can't open this page "http://interactive.ancestry.com/.../FLHG.../58024...", without joining Ancestry. Perhaps you could copy & paste it to my email address.
The resource cannot be found.
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Gogi Agvlisgv If you look at the actual document, there is another name associated with signatures: William Nevin(amd?). That connects to the information I supplied above. I cannot copy/paste that original doc, Kenneth, as I am on my son's computer. Perhaps someone else in this group can do that for you. Sorry. Ordinarily I would --no problem. 47 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv It is the actual doc, not "text," so I can't just copy it. Has to be downloaded. 46 minutes ago · Like..
Kenneth Montgomery Oh! OK. 45 minutes ago · Like · 1..
Gogi Agvlisgv That is the one who married Mary McCullough. 44 minutes ago · Like..
Kenneth Montgomery The Alexander Montgomery on "Find a Grave", is believed to belong to the Haplogroup J2. I'm an I1. 44 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv Pennsylvania, Land Warrants, 1733-1987 about Alexander Mongumery
Name: Alexander Mongumery Acreage: 200 Warrant Date: 20 Sep 1734 Warrant Location: Lancaster http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll...
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Kenneth Montgomery My Alexander was married to a Mary, but, her surname was not known. Might be the one I am looking for. 42 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 about Alexander Hugh Montgomery
Name: Alexander Hugh Montgomery Gender: Male Birth Place: Ir Birth Year: 1705 Spouse Name: Mary Mccullough Marriage Year: 1725 Marriage State: Ir
Number Pages: 1 http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll... 42 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv I posted that before (in this thread), but they were married in Ireland. 41 minutes ago · Like..
Kenneth Montgomery Cool. It has not been established by any of the other researchers, as to when Alexander & Mary were married, nr, when Alexander may have come over. 40 minutes ago · Like..
Kenneth Montgomery Keep in mind, though, that, "Hugh" is not a name used with I1 Montgomerys, that I can find. But, it doesn't mean that, this guy is Not my Alexander, though. Does it say where he lived, in America? Pennsylvania, Virginia, N.C., &, later, his sons, &, grandsons, moved to Kentucky, Indiana, & Illinois, with my Nathan, moving to Alabama from Indiana, in the early 1830's. 26 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv Well, I don't know why. The records are found of any/all "Alexander Montgomery" men and the dates/locations of immigration and marriage info. 39 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970 about Mary Montgomery
Name: Mary Montgomery SAR Membership: 13302 Spouse: Alexander Montgomery Children: William Montgomery
Link to actual document: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll...
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Gogi Agvlisgv Again, this attaches to General William Montgomery, mother Mary and her spouse Alexander. This link takes you to a part of the SAR app which discusses General William Montgomery: http://interactive.ancestry.com/.../32596_242032.../11566...
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Gogi Agvlisgv http://en.wikipedia.org/.../General_William_Montgomery_House
General William Montgomery House - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org
Gen. William Montgomery House is a historic home located at Danville in Montour County, Pennsylvania. It is a 2 1⁄2-story stone house with a pedimented gable roof. The main house is three bays by two bays. Attached to the stone structure is a gable-roofed, 2 1⁄2-story log and frame structure, though.... 28 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv Remember, wiki info may/may not be accurate: http://en.wikipedia.org/.../William_Montgomery...
William Montgomery (Pennsylvania) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org
William Montgomery (August 3, 1736 – May 1, 1816) was an American jurist and politician from Chester County, Pennsylvania. He represented Pennsylvania in the United States House of Representatives from 1793 until 1795.. 26 minutes ago
Gogi Agvlisgv As to DNA, I have posted before about this, and so has Yvonne Mashburn Schmidt ... When we see DNA "family groups" (such as on Family Tree) and that DNA associated with it, all that can tell us is that people who have traced (hopefully) back to that ancestor claim that ancestor, and that is the DNA associated with their claim of that ancestor. In my post quite a while ago, I talked about a cousin who carries the surname but whose DNA does NOT match it. My brother's did match the ancestor. Two of my cousins (a female genealogist, and the male who carries the surname) are not happy with the matching results of my family's DNA to this ancestor because the male cousin's did not match. This male cousin intimated to me once that his great great grandmother *may* have had an affair. All I can say to that is that DNA doesn't lie - at least in his case - and results are what they are. This male cousin doesn't speak to me anymore because he is mad at me for sticking to my paper trail claims (and now DNA match). My question to you, Kenneth, is this: Has anyone from the direct male line of THAT "Alexander Hugh Montgomery" had their DNA done and are you sure there wasn't an affair which happened long ago and now shows up in the DNA? If your DNA doesn't match that DNA, it might be that your DNA is the proper one, and theirs was changed (due to an affair) at some point - or vice versa. I don't know. The only thing you can conclusively say is that your DNA is I1. Until there is a greater Montgomery sampling, you won't know for sure how your Montgomery line fits. 10 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv Virginia Land, Marriage, and Probate Records, 1639-1850 about Alexander Montgomery
Name: Alexander Montgomery Date: 19 Sep 1769 Location: Augusta Co., VA
Notes: This probate record was originally published in "Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia, 1745-1800. Extracted from the Original Court Records of Augusta County" by Lyman Chalkley.
Remarks: Patrick Martin's will: To wife, Jane; to sons, George and Andrew, to sons, Joseph and James; to daughter, Mary Patterson. Executors, wife, Jane, and George Martin. Proved, by Jameson. George Martin qualifies executor.
Description: Witness Book: WB4-320 Prove date: 21 Aug 1770 http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll...
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Gogi Agvlisgv Alexander Montgomery above was a witness. 7 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv Interesting discussion about this Montgomery man and his DNA results: http://genforum.genealogy.com/montgomery/messages/6435.html
Family Tree DNA Montgomery Project
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Gogi Agvlisgv There are now 14 in your group: http://www.familytreedna.com/.../Montgomery/default.aspx...
Family Tree DNA - Montgomery Surname DNA Project
www.familytreedna.com
For genealogy within the most recent fifteen generations, STR markers help define paternal lineages. Y-DNA STR markers change (mutate) often enough that most men who share the same STR results are will also share a recent paternal lineage. This page displays Y-Chromosome DNA (Y-DNA) STR results for… 20 minutes ago · Like
Gogi Agvlisgv Don't know if this will be helpful to you or not, Kenneth Montgomery - but it was posted 2 days ago: http://johnmontgomeryancestry.com/THEDISCOVERYOFOURANCEST...
THE DISCOVERY OF OUR ANCESTRY
johnmontgomeryancestry.com
Knowing our ancestral history has always been an important part of our Montgomery family's tradition. When armed with a DAR approved lineage, two of our family members decided to apply for "supplemental" lineage approvals in 2002. To our dismay, we were turned down because our "believed to be correc... 45 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv Main page: http://www.johnmontgomeryancestry.com/
John and Margaret Montgomery
www.johnmontgomeryancestry.com
History of John and Margaret Montgomery of Lawrence County Alabama (I believe HG J2) 44 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv Although I could never find a direct DNA Haplogroup reference, I looked up the kit numbers referenced in their DNA study details link and found the kit numbers. These go to the J2 group. The author makes a good point. NON matches are still good because they tell you who you DON'T relate to by DNA. Therefore, you can eliminate the father as the biological contributor to your line. You know your Montgomery research better than I do, but I hope this was somewhat helpful to you. 30 minutes ago · Like
Kenneth Montgomery Gogi, with this last article, does this mean that the DAR re-checks an applicants genealogy, &, tells them if they have correct info, or not?
Kenneth Montgomery This is the line that I am supposed to be descended from: Alexander b ? 1705 d Orange Co NC 1768 Scotland. 9 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv Just from what they stated, it apparently does. I have run across others in my own line (can't remember now if direct or allied) where I've seen noted that a once approved one is now not. I do not know who or how this is determined. I would contact that person who owns that webpage as it appears she has done some extensive research and may give you another piece of your puzzle. Her contact info is on "Help Us." 9 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv Yes, I know, Kenneth. 9 minutes ago · Like..
Kenneth Montgomery Then, why doesn't the DAR hire itself out as genealogists? Why hire a "professional"? 7 minutes ago · Like · 1..
Gogi Agvlisgv LOL! Ask them. That author from that page does go on to discuss that various lines intermarried in various places and names some of these places where these families are found (I recall Tennessee being named). 6 minutes ago · Like..
Patricia J. Akers When looking only at the mtDNA or Y chromosome if you do not match others then you do not have the same mother's line or father's line. The full genome has to be considered when trying to find out about the rest. All of the chromosomes are assessed. 6 minutes ago · Like
Kenneth Montgomery This is the line that I am supposed to be descended from: Alexander b ? 1705 d Orange Co NC 1768 Scotland. 2 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv Just from what they stated, it apparently does. I have run across others in my own line (can't remember now if direct or allied) where I've seen noted that a once approved one is now not. I do not know who or how this is determined. I would contact that person who owns that webpage as it appears she has done some extensive research and may give you another piece of your puzzle. Her contact info is on "Help Us." 2 minutes ago · Like..
Gogi Agvlisgv Yes, I know, Kenneth. 2 minutes ago · Like..
Kenneth Montgomery Then, why doesn't the DAR hire itself out as genealogists? Why hire a "professional"? a few seconds ago · Like · 1
Gogi Agvlisgv LOL! Ask them. That author from that page does go on to discuss that various lines intermarried in various places and names some of these places where these families are found (I recall Tennessee being named). 12 minutes ago · Like..
Patricia J. Akers When looking only at the mtDNA or Y chromosome if you do not match others then you do not have the same mother's line or father's line. The full genome has to be considered when trying to find out about the rest. All of the chromosomes are assessed. 12 minutes ago · Like"

Kenneth

http://www.geni.com/path/Ian-Winton+is+related+to+Alexander-Montgom...

Ian Winton
You

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Winton
your father

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Frances Inez Winton
his mother

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Lurlia-(Lurlie) Angeline Reed
her mother

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Thomas Indiamon Prater
her father

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Elizabeth Louisa Prater
his mother

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Edmond Silas Elkins
her father

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Sophia Elkins
his mother

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James Dillard
her brother

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Cynthia Arzelia Dillard
his daughter

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James Bryan Conley
her husband

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Cynthia A. Montgomery
his wife

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James H. Montgomery
her father

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John Montgomery Jr
his father

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Capt. John Montgomery
his father

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Alexander Montgomery, II
his father

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Alexander Montgomery, I
his father

Ian, we have common ancestors starting with John M. Jr--he is my 3rd ggm (Jane)'s brother. Alex I is my 6th ggf. I had William (of Brigand) Montgomery (1635-1710) & Isabella Burnett as Alex I's parents, but due to DNA testing this doesn't look to be correct. William's haplogroup is "J" while Alex I's is "I".

Pat

Mine is as follows:
Kenneth W. Montgomery (1952-still kicking)
Lloyd M. Montgomery (1923-1985)
Wallace M. Montgomery (1900-1963)
John P. Montgomery (1867-1956)
John W. Montgomery (1837-1924)
Nathan/iel Montgomery (1813-1881)
Alexander Montgomery (1786-1822)
John Montgomery (1764-1845)
Alexander Montgomery II (1740-?)
Alexander Montgomery I (1705-1767)

Thanks for rewriting like that, "still kicking" Montgomery. :)

Hi Patricia,

How are things there? I am wondering if you are a member of Clan Montgomery Society, Int'l? If so, have you uploaded your tree into the Database? If so, have you updated our line there?

Kenneth

Ha! Ha! Ha!, Erica. I like to "lighten up" things, sometimes.

Can someone tell me how to make my tree public? Or, is it best to keep it private?

Pat - are you on Facebook? There is a group called Montgomery Genealogy. There is a pretty good outline of the Kentucky, Virginia and South Carolina Montgomerys who settled there. Lots of Alexanders and Williams. I would love it if you tried to make some sense of it.

Kenneth - I pretty much do public / deceased & private / living.

The easiest way to review is through the lists menu. There's a toggle on the right column to flip privacy settings for profiles in your tree - which is (more or less) equal to "the privacy circle" here

http://www.geni.com/company/privacy

Thanks Erica, I got it. I think.