George Cunningham, Sir Laird of Belton

Carole (Erickson) Pomeroy,Vol. Curator C

9/29/2014 at 7:46 PM

I think that Margaret Danielston of Danielston & William Cunynghame of Kilmaurs, Earl of Carrick are not the correct parents of George Cunningham/Cunyinghame of Belton.
I think that William Cunynghame of Kilmaurs and William Cunynghame/Cunningham of Belton have been miss-merged.

From references on William Cunynghame of Kilmaurs (b. c.1330 d. c.1396) his son eldest son predeceased him so the 2nd son was & heir and succeeded him, Sir William Cuninghame of Kilmaurs (d. 1418) and his son & heir was Sir Robert Cuninghame of Kilmaurs. George Cunningham/Cunyinghame (b. c.1410 d. 1482) was born after the death's of the two parents Margaret of Danielston & http://www.geni.com/people/William-Cunynghame-of-Kilmaurs. And George would not be son of Sir William Cuninghame, of Kilmaurs because he died at a earlier date then George's referenced father.

From references about George Cunningham/Cunyinghame of Belton, Retour of Inquest held in the burgh of Dumfries, 5 Feb. 1471, finding George de Cunynghame heir to his father Sir Wm. Cunynghame knt, who died about 6 weeks before. And I believe that Anna Montgomery may not be the correct wife or George had a second wife named Elizabeth because of a Charter by George Cunnynghame, to his son in law John Hay & dau. Elizabeth Cunnynghame, reserving the liferent to the said George and a reasonable terce to his wife Elizabeth.

So there are at least two points where the references do not agree on the parents Margaret Danielston of Danielston & William Cunynghame of Kilmaurs, Earl of Carrick that are connected.
1. The years of birth & death of William of Kilmaurs (& Margaret) & George
2. That George was heir to his father William of Belton, where William of Kilmaurs' heir was another William of Kilmaurs.

If there is no objection, then I will be removing Margaret Danielston of Danielston & William Cunynghame of Kilmaurs, Earl of Carrick as parents of George Cunningham, Sir Laird of Belton.

If there is any objection then please state where a reliable reference is for keeping this relationship.

Erica Howton C

9/29/2014 at 7:49 PM

Please go forward. The Kilmaurs line is my direct line (in theory). Not associated with Belton.

Carole (Erickson) Pomeroy,Vol. Curator C

10/6/2014 at 2:34 PM

George was connected to the wrong parents and I have removed them and added the new profile for Sir William Cunningham, his father.
Unknown Profile

I will send requests to be added as Manager to those that were manager of Sir George Cunningham, Laird of Belton

Thank you

Erica Howton C

10/6/2014 at 2:36 PM

Very good work, Carole, & much appreciated.

Carole (Erickson) Pomeroy,Vol. Curator C

10/6/2014 at 2:57 PM

Here is something strange!

This is listed in my News feed, but when I go to the Profile for Sir William Cunningham, Woodman Mark Lowes Dickinson, OBE is not listed as a manager.

Woodman Mark Lowes Dickinson, OBE now manages the profiles for James Howard and Sir William Cunningham of Belton & Snade. about an hour ago

If it is an actual problem then possibly if Mark would request management, I would accept and he will be added. Or if any other's have accepted the request but are not being shown as a manager, let me know and I will report the problem.

David Erin Patrick

11/21/2014 at 6:46 AM

Carole and Erika, that isn't the only problem here, but i haven't had the time to fix it myself. Somebody has actually merged one William Cunningham with his own son, who was also William Cunningham. The father was the Earl of Carrick, through his marriage to Eleanor de Bruce. That was his second marriage. All of his children came from the first marriage to an unknown woman. Eleanor was later in life, and the title returned to the King after she died, a no male hers were born of the union. William Cunningham II was the one who married Margaret DeDanielston, which brought several important titles along with it.

Carole (Erickson) Pomeroy,Vol. Curator C

11/21/2014 at 10:17 AM

I have merged Margaret of Danielston connected wife of William Cunynghame of Kilmaurs, Earl of Carrick with Margaret Danielston of Danielston and moved her children from William Cunynghame of Kilmaurs, Earl of Carrick to Sir William Cuninghame, of Kilmaurs then removed Margaret Danielston as the wife of William Cunynghame of Kilmaurs, Earl of Carrick.

Although William Cunynghame of Kilmaurs, Earl of Carrick did marry a Margaret, she was not Margaret Danielston/Danyelston dau. of Robert Danyelston who was married to his son William.

Also did some merging of duplicates in the surrounding area & placed some references in the 'About' sections.

David Erin Patrick

11/21/2014 at 12:21 PM

Awesome! Thank you for fixing that Carole. Reading the biography, it wad obvious that it was talking about a father and son, but somehow it all ended up on one profile.

Erica Howton C

11/21/2014 at 2:44 PM

Once again Carole comes through! Thank you so much (from the valley of 1,000 Cunninghams) ..

George Cunningham, Sir Laird of Belton - Correct parents?

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