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Joan de Berkeley (de Somery) - Joan de Somery widow of Godfrey de Craucombe?

Started by Terry Jackson (Switzer) on Monday, June 1, 2015
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Terry Jackson (Switzer) C
6/1/2015 at 3:14 PM

I have found references that a Joan Somery was widow of Godfrey de Craucombe (Crawcombe) (Chaucombe?).
See:
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=j5fKdA6BqNYC&pg=PA242&l...

Where it states Ebulo de Montibus married Joan de Somery widow of the King's Steward Godfrey de Craucombe.

I can't find much about Crawcombe but in 'British History online' about Watlington Manor in Oxfordshire it states it was leased in 1231 to Godfrey de Crowcombe with the honour of Wallingford Castle.

The question is:
1. Is this the right Joan de Somery that married Godfrey de Craucombe and Ebulo de Montibus? and did she marry these men?
Linda Kathleen Thompson, (c) C
6/1/2015 at 4:37 PM

Have you found a date that they would have married, Terry?
Linda Kathleen Thompson, (c) C
6/1/2015 at 4:45 PM

This looks like it's this Joan de Somery. Joan de Somery

When you go to page 48, it says she also married Ebulo de Montibus. Ebulo de Montibus, Lord of Kitton
Linda Kathleen Thompson, (c) C
6/1/2015 at 4:48 PM

Which is her niece.
http://www.geni.com/path/Joan-de-Berkeley+is+related+to+Joan-de-Som...
Linda Kathleen Thompson, (c) C
6/1/2015 at 4:49 PM

Terry Jackson (Switzer)
Linda Kathleen Thompson, (c) C
6/1/2015 at 4:58 PM

I see that you saw that....
So you're thinking that it's the wrong Joan that Ebulo is attached to?
Linda Kathleen Thompson, (c) C
6/1/2015 at 5:05 PM

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=berkeley&...;
Linda Kathleen Thompson, (c) C
6/1/2015 at 7:27 PM

http://blog.frh3.org.uk/?tag=ebulo-de-montibus
Linda Kathleen Thompson, (c) C
6/1/2015 at 7:32 PM

According to that last link,
"Ebal married a widow: Joan de Bohun, of the senior but non-comital branch of the family, had first wed Stephen de Somery and then Godfrey of Crowcombe, a prominent curialis."
Linda Kathleen Thompson, (c) C
6/1/2015 at 7:38 PM

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2004-09/...
Terry Jackson (Switzer) C
6/2/2015 at 7:54 AM

I'm back now! Curious that there seems also to be more than one Ebulo from your last link. The previous link does at least agree with me that a Joan married Somery and Crowcombe.
Godfrey Crowcombe was tenant of Watlington in 1231
It looks like the correct Joan was a de Bohun who married first a Somery and so may not even have a profile on Geni yet.
I've merged some of the obvious duplicates.

Linda Wellman
6/2/2015 at 8:33 AM

I couldn't find a Geni profile on Godfrey of Crowcombe, although there were more than 10 google entries on him. Someone must be related to him??
Linda Kathleen Thompson, (c) C
6/2/2015 at 6:55 PM

I wasn't sure if I was helping, or making things more confusing. lol

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