John Taylor, Sr. - Is his ancestry proven?

Started by Erica Howton on Monday, January 11, 2016
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1/11/2016 at 8:35 AM

john batzel asks:

Is the information posted in Geni on John Taylor I (1607 - 1651) the immigrant from Pennington Castle, Carlisle, Cumberland, England to Lancaster county, Va documented/proven.

It appears that the ancestry for John's goes back to Rowland Taylor and iffy past him. However, I have read that there is some who think even ancestry back to Rowland is questionable

I descend from John Taylor I (1607 - 1651) son, John Taylor II who married Alice Gascoigne.

1/12/2016 at 9:48 AM

And now I'm more confused than ever. I'm from his brother James' branch. And now have to ask, who WAS the mother of Mary Bishop Taylor Pendleton? James' wife, who I have as Mary Bishop Gregory, or his mistress? If it was Ursula Kettle, I'm going to have to change everything. Meanwhile here are some things I found looking into James Taylor (the ancestor, not the singer).

https://familysearch.org/photos/stories/10591704

http://www.politicalfamilytree.com/samples%20content/members/first%...

1/12/2016 at 9:54 AM

Helen I wonder if before we get into the ancestry, we wouldn't be better served cleaning up the immediate family group? (siblings, their wives, their children).

Taylor is a name that attracts all kinds of "not these Taylors".

Would we agree to use http://www.politicalfamilytree.com/samples%20content/members/first%... as a start point?

1/12/2016 at 9:55 AM

And now that I said all that, I'm descended from John II 's brother James, not John I's brother James (who was the philanderer).

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1/12/2016 at 10:15 AM

John Taylor is my 11th cousin 9xremoved now if wonder if my link is correct this is my link http://www.geni.com/path/Judy-Rice+is+related+to+John-Taylor?from=6...

1/12/2016 at 10:19 AM

Judy - can you "walk" your links and look for a profile that seems out of place?

It's a weird connect to me as your ancestry is Northeast / Canada / England, but nothing is jumping at me.

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1/12/2016 at 3:19 PM

Nothing looks out of place for me but their are Taylors in Kahnawake Que and that is Northeast

1/12/2016 at 3:42 PM

(name coincidence?)

1/12/2016 at 4:06 PM

Here's a link to

http://books.google.com/books?id=tyQSAAAAYAAJ&lpg=PA116&ots...

But what I'd really like to read is a Taylor family study published in the College of William & Mary magazine or similar - a fairly modern genealogy that's been peer analyzed.

Is there any such article anyone can reference ?

1/14/2016 at 1:46 PM

A lot of sites agree that Rowland Taylor was a direct ancestor of President Zachary Taylor.

https://rowlandtaylor.wordpress.com/2006/11/19/the-legacy-of-rowlan...

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kykchgs/Knott/Religious_History/u...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rowland_Taylor
It says here that he's a direct ancestor to Zachary Taylor.

1/15/2016 at 10:46 AM

The link appears to be a well written report that includes this topic of Rowland Taylor U.S. ancestry. It notes that there is no proof of the connection between John Taylor I and Rowland Taylor.

http://www.nltaylor.net/pdfs/Taylorgen.pdf

1/16/2016 at 8:27 AM

Unfortunately, sooner or later, genealogy ends up being educated guesses instead of absolute proof. To be honest, circumstantial evidence is what got me from Mary Pendleton Gaines Estes to John Taylor in the first place. Whatever google did to its search engine, I have been unable to find the document of the wedding between Mary Pendleton Gaines and Coleman Estes in 1803 which has Francis Gaines as a witness. There were more than one Francis Gaines, but one had Mary (nee) Pendleton Gaines as his mother and among his "proved" children were others named after grandparents. Mary Pendleton Gaines, first wife of Coleman Estes died at 32, before her father.

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