Walter Palmer, of Stonington - parents of Walter Palmer

The stance of the Walter Palmer Society is that the best candidates for parentage would be Walter Palmer and Elizabeth Carter of Yetminster, but it's not officially documented. When both they and, last I checked, NEHGS, aren't comfortable "officially" making him their child, I'm not inclined to have Geni do it. But we could certainly update the curator note.

Reta, what do you have from your great-aunt and -uncle? Did they have those two or someone else? LDS ordinance data can be iffy, but I'd be curious to know what they found.

If I remember correctly, the Walter/Elizabeth theory is based on him coming over on the same ship as an Abraham Palmer with those connections, but 1) they weren't identified as brothers or any other type of relatives and 2) names like Walter, Elizabeth, and Palmer weren't exactly uncommon for a bunch of Dorset folks coming over at the time.

It sure seems like a good fit, but with our Walter and Abraham never being identified as relatives...that would be very odd for Puritans to never note anywhere, which I think is a big source of the scholarly hesitation.

We have this in the profile:

>>>> Walter's ancestry, or more correctly lack thereof, has been confirm ed by Elmer Hall Palmer, Society Genealogist, of the Walter Palmer Socie ty and, from the Parham House "The Family of Palmer" pedigree chart. [Jan uary 1999]

Unfortunately, Elmer -- a legend in Connecticut genealogy -- died a couple years ago, but that man *scoured* for every possible record and analyzed things six ways to Sunday, and if he "confirmed" a "lack thereof," that's worth noting.

@Walter Palmer, of Stonington - parents of Walter Palmer
I have reduced the information to make it easier to follow, hope this helps, I have 2 thick binders of info collected from my great aunt and uncle.If it helps, I can give more detail, let me know.
-son Thomas Palmer [Sir Knight} Born abt 1508, Parham, Sussex England, died 24 April 1585
Wife Catherine Stradling, children 3 sons John born July 14 1544 the eldest

Wife Griselda [Bridget] Carrel born 1548 Eng., Children 3 daughters, Mary, Dorothy and Elizabeth

-Son John Palmer [Sir Knight] AGN:8WIF-GF born July 14 1544,Parham, Somerset, England
Mother- Catherine Stradling
Wife Elizabeth Verney [AFN: 84V7-MG born abt. 1558, Married abt 1577
8 children with Elizabeth, Walter was the 5th

-Son Walter Palmer [AFN:7TWO-&X]Born Abt. 1585-1598 Nottinghamshire, England Died Nov 10 1661
Mother Elizabeth Verney
Wife Ann Elizabeth Born Abt. 1589, England, Died Bef.1628-1629, married 1606-1608,
6 children with Ann Elizabeth,
Wife Rebecca Short, born abt 1607, married June 1 1633,
12 children with Rebecca

Son, Child # 4, Nehemiah Palmer born Nov 27 1637, Charlestown MA,
Died Feb 17,1717 , Stonington , New London CT
Son of Rebecca Short and Walter
Wife Hannah Lord Stanton (Staton) Married Nov. 20 1662
6 children with Hannah, Daniel # 4

Son, Daniel Palmer born Nov 12 1672 (AFN:8KDJ-5Q), Stonington Connecticut , Died Feb 20 1762
Son of Hannah and Nehemiah
Wife Margaret Smith born 1683, Married March 25 1700, died June 4 1727,
9 children with Margaret ,her father Nehemiah Smith, Mother Lydia Winchester
Wife Mary Avery Denison Married Jan 12 1732

Son, Daniel Palmer born June 10 1704, Connecticut
Son of Margaret Smith & Daniel
Wife Patience Foote [AFN:H11Q-4D] married Jan 13 1726, Branford, New Haven, CT.
2 children, Rebecca April 28, 1728 and Lucy Before 1731
Wife Mary Palmer [AFN:8KDL-QX] Born 1706, married Jan 6, 1731
Her father Joseph Palmer mother Mary Palmer [Mary’s maiden surname is questionable and it seems to be confused on the Geni tree] 8 children with Mary,

son Samuel Palmer, Born Nov 20 1731 Volutown Conn., Died Jan 19, 1773
son of Mary and Daniel,
Wife Lucretia Fish, born 1736, Her father John Fish, Mother Lucretia Packer
They had 8 children Daniel #5

Daniel #5 Born Sept 22, 1763 and James H Palmer#8 born 1770.
These are the 2 lines we are following

See notes in this profile

John William Palmer, Knight

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Claims that William Palmer was the son of Sir John (William) Palmer and Elizabeth Verney have been proven in error by Carlton Palmer in an article in The Colonial Genealogist [XII:3, p 115]. The bishop's transcript at Parham had been read: "Willm, younger sonne of William Palmer, Esquire, was baptized on 18 April 1585." Actually it should read "the child, William, was buried on 18 April 1585."

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1. Many researchers have incorrectly recorded Walter of Stonington as a son of Sir John and/or William Palmer and Elizabeth Vernai. Some records even show Sir John and William as one person, William John Palmer.

In reality, William Palmer, I b. 15 Jul 1544 married Elizabeth Vernai and their son William, II, b. 1583 but died April 1585, in his second year, is incorrectly thought to be Walter. ....

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I have entered 2 pages from my information on the unknown father of Walter Palmer for all to view in media... easier to do than retype it all, hope this is ok,
It shows William Palmer born to John (sir Knight) Palmer and Elizabeth Verney, abt 1588 died abt 1627, spouse Frances Blossom

Reta - yes, that's a good idea, everyone can then see:

https://www.geni.com/photo/view/6000000027907836944?album_type=phot...

https://www.geni.com/photo/view/6000000027907836944?album_type=phot...

Or from the profile Walter Palmer of Stonington's father

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Did you see the note how William (not Walter) son of William (not John) Palmer, who married Elizabeth Verney, was buried (not born) on 18 April 1585?

And there "had been" many that misread this record, so that submitted pedigrees had a record, but the record had been misunderstood?

Reta, I sincerely appreciate all of that typing and scanning work. Having those PAF printouts plus this discussion thread will leave a good trail for others trying to resolve this issue. This is why I love Geni.

Erica, thanks for curating and name-locking. I fully expect William Palmer and Elizabeth Varney to show up again, but I'll worry about that when it happens. :)

Private User is this the Elmer Hall Palmer listed here as author ?

http://www.worldcat.org/search?q=au%3APalmer%2C+Elmer+Hall.&dbl...

Erica Howton, yes, Elmer published the definitive Palmer book as well as some journal articles. He was also one of the early adopters of Internet collaboration. His passing was a huge loss. I've periodically wondered what happened to his papers, because his collection would be incredible.

Sorry - I meant, is this his genealogy tree on geni?

Elmer Hall Palmer

Yes, that's him. The Palmer Society page is down, but you can see his biography at http://web.archive.org/web/20151104073726/http://www.walterpalmer.c...