Gunnar Hjarandsen Hvite - Wrong Father Listed in Geni

Started by Private on Thursday, February 2, 2017
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Private
2/2/2017 at 6:59 AM

@Gunnar Hjarandsen Hvite was born in 1190 and in Geni his father is listed as Hallvard Ljotson Hvite who was born +/- 908 and that is a 282 year difference. Hallvard is the son of Ljot born in 875, I believe there are at least 6 if not 7 generations missing in this relationship.

Private
2/3/2017 at 5:51 AM

Henry, there is some data I noted yesterday that there is a connection to @Helga Sigurdsdatter Munn and @Sigurd Munn II Haraldsson

Private
2/3/2017 at 5:55 AM

Henry Stale Farstad: See file attached and see if research and sources are too poor to consider.
https://www.geni.com/path/Andrew-Gilbert+is+related+to+Sigurd-Munn-...

2/4/2017 at 12:24 PM

Sorry, I do not know anything about this. Yours PT Larsen

2/4/2017 at 6:12 PM

I see that this was caused by a wrong merge, which has since been unmerged. Looks better now.

Private
2/6/2017 at 8:36 AM

Thank you Harald!

Private User
3/13/2017 at 5:29 PM

I can't figure out if there was a bad merge or what happened, but this tree needs more attention. Gunnar is born c. 1190, his father Hjarande is born c. 1140 (and lived for 112 years?), while his grandfather was born c. 1010. My guess is that two sets of generation has been wrongly merged into eachother.

3/14/2017 at 5:05 AM

More likely, the guy who guesstimated Gunnar didn't talk to the guy who guesstimated Hjarande. Most sources don't mention the date at this time, unfortunately.

Private User
3/14/2017 at 5:14 PM

Yeah, that migth be the case, but its been a lot of bad merges in this area lately. The line from Hjarand Hvite to Harald Hårfagre is indeed dubious, but if we should keep this line on Geni we should atleast try to get the right number of generation.

If you select "resolve conflicting data" on this profile (Gunnar Hjarandson), you'll see that two of the profiles that are merged into this one have the birthyear 1090 instead of 1190.

Another possible bad merge is this one: https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=70154412270 Yes, it looks correct, but given the history of this spesific user (see this: https://www.geni.com/discussions/142313?msg=1138286) and the age of the profiles, I believe its a bad merge between the great grandfather and great grandson.

Sources are scarce on this line (because it's dubious), but this is what I found here: https://www.blix-dahle.no/tng/getperson.php?personID=I54156&tre...
Gunnar Hjarandson, born 1090
Hallvar Gunnarson Hvite, born 1120
Hjarande Hallvarson Hvite, born 1150

I believe this means that we miss tre generations in this line, the father Hallvar Gunnarson b. 1120 , the grandfather Gunnar Hjarandson b. 1090 and the great grandfather Hjarand Hallvarson (if the second great grandfather was Hallvard Gunnarson Hvit b. 1010).

Private User
3/14/2017 at 5:22 PM

I found Hallvar Gunnarsson Hvite b. 1120, listed as son of the Gunnar Hjarandsen b. 1190. Then we have to find the bad merge on Gunnar Hjarandsen.

Private User
3/14/2017 at 5:27 PM
Private User
3/15/2017 at 2:27 PM

The bad merges has been reversed and the line has now been restored.

Private
3/16/2017 at 8:17 AM

Ruben, Wonderful detective work. Thank you so much and many thanks to Harald as well, as he has been like a guardian angel in the background for most of my time trying to figure some of this out!!

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