Colonel Bridges Freeman, Sr. - Col. Bridges Freeman of Jamestown

Started by Hatte Blejer (absent until Nov 1) on Saturday, October 14, 2017
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10/14/2017 at 2:20 PM

It looks like this profile needs some attention. I am not an expert in sources for Jamestown or early Virginia and would appreciate input from managers and those who do specialize in this era and location.

There are two sons named James and two sons named John. The "bio" on his Overview has only three sons -- Bridges, Henry and James and has James dying in Eastham, Massachusetts.

It seems clear that various Freeman families have been confused in the past but I couldn't unravel them easily looking at the Revisions.

Also, please be aware that in general -- with a few exceptions -- families of early New England and early Virginia are not closely related and do not live in both locations during their lives. Usually when we see such a profile, it's a bad merge. The distance was enormous and even travel by sea was rare.

10/14/2017 at 3:24 PM

Bridget Freeman is also a problem.

She is apparently NOT the daughter of Francis Fowler. See discussion on her profile and her husband's profile.

Erica Howton

10/14/2017 at 3:26 PM

And apparently, there is no will and none of the children are verified. In fact, some of the Freeman male lines who believe they are descended from Bridges Freeman cannot be since the various lines in a DNA surname study do not belong to the same Y-DNA haplogroup. See his profile for link to discussion of the study.

10/14/2017 at 7:48 PM

So you've found good resources. The book

Virginia Immigrants and Adventurers, 1607-1635: A Biographical Dictionary
By Martha W. McCartney

Is quite good, and the DNA study seems on top of things.

I think the next step is to try and sort children.

10/14/2017 at 7:54 PM

I’ve been in touch with the Massachusetts Freeman contact and there is no connection. This appears to be a mistake.

10/14/2017 at 8:01 PM

John Freeman, of Norfolk VA does not match the notes for John, son of Bridges on https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=143268814

I will see if there's anything I can in undo merge, otherwise I'll disconnect him from parents

10/14/2017 at 8:06 PM

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=freem... John of Norfolk county identified by the DNA project as unrelated to Col Bridges & an original immigrant from England. I will create NN locked parents.

10/14/2017 at 10:19 PM

Parents exist for John Freeman, Jr., of Brunswick County but need to be found or re created

10/14/2017 at 10:56 PM
10/14/2017 at 11:18 PM

Awesome. Thank you. I'm so glad you worked the children. I did a lot of work finding good sources and improving the Overviews for Bridges, second wife Jane Evelin, and first wife Brigett. I also added Robert Evelin to the Virginia Freeman project and added a good source to him and his brother George Evelyn / Evelin.

George Evelin, First Commander of Kent Island

10/15/2017 at 12:00 AM

Needs to be reunited with family John Freeman, III

10/15/2017 at 1:47 AM

Time traveler, family can probably be found

John Freeman, of Chowan NC

10/15/2017 at 3:00 AM

Well, that was a nighmare. Done.

10/15/2017 at 9:43 AM

How did you accomplish this?

10/15/2017 at 12:14 PM

I found some decent sources for the Freeman family of Bertie Co. and Chowan County.

It's not James, it's John Freeman, married to Tabitha Hoyter.

I detached David Freeman. There's nothing of substance to connect the two Freeman families. He is never listed as a child of John Freeman, of Chowan County, NC and Tabitha Hoyter. Their children are: Solomon, Elisha, John, Moses, Aaron, and Elizabeth Baker (husband James Baker).

10/15/2017 at 12:28 PM

Also detached from John Freeman, of Chowan, NC and Tabitha Hoyter:

Allen Freeman

10/15/2017 at 12:36 PM

Ditto for Thomas Freeman who was born 2 years after John Freeman, of Chowan, NC so cannot be his son and is not listed as a son of John Freeman and Tabitha Hoyter.

10/15/2017 at 12:39 PM

It looked like there was not one "bad merge," although there were plenty, and some of the work had been done before (and crept back in). The more detailed the easier to keep the lines clean, but even a simple "son of ..." or "married to ..." in the curator note helped me. Also tracking geographically.

10/15/2017 at 1:28 PM

For some reason the tree of John Freeman, of Chowan NC has doubles of him and his wife.

I think there are still some errors in the tree. I'm running out of steam but I saw duplicates for Moses, Aaron, Solomon, and John in the wrong generation (they are the children of John 1718 Freeman and Sarah Outlaw.

10/15/2017 at 1:32 PM

Michael Freeman

Disconnected from John Freeman, of Chowan NC and wife.

10/15/2017 at 2:37 PM

Curator menu, fix duplicate partners, one duplicate partner fixed, when applied to John Freeman, of Chowan NC

Part of undo merge cleanup

10/15/2017 at 3:26 PM

Thanks, I haven't experienced that before or didn't notice it previously.

10/15/2017 at 3:52 PM

Oh my, I've spent all day in North Carolina. The Rascos are a mess.

Dan Cornett I have found some good discussion of Rasco. There is NO William Teague Rasco, just two brothers named William Teagle Rasco and Teagle Rasco.

No Elizabeth Taylor either. I orphaned two of them. It's all Internet fiction.

10/15/2017 at 3:53 PM

Sorry, wrong William Rasco. Here he is: Captain William Marcellus Rasco, II

10/16/2017 at 2:18 PM

Thanks, Hatte! The Rasco / Roscoe / ... were a branch I'd "inherited" but hadn't done anything other than a cursory pass through for obvious 'structural' errors.

10/17/2017 at 9:15 PM

Dan, you're brave, North Carolina is hard! I did help some in the Rasco tree, but I suspect that North Caroline 1700s to mid 1800s could probably use more curating. Erica did wonders with the much confused James and John Freemans.

10/17/2017 at 11:27 PM

Laura Abbott-Roberts I wonder if we could get you to take another look at Robert "Bad Apple" Freeman

The dates and locations don't quite work with his "siblings"

Any details appreciated

Private User
3/28/2018 at 5:32 PM

Hello, I saw that this group was trying to unravel the tangled branches of the Freeman families in the colonial Carolinas and Virgina.

I am trying to figure out which Freeman family or families lived in Bertie North Carolina in the mid 1700's and I need some help.

My 6th great grandfather William Freeman was born in Bertie in 1759. I don't know who his family was though, or if he was an orphan. I know that he lived in Martin county NC when he enlisted in the continental army. After the war he moved to Burke county NC and then to Greene county Missouri.

I am waiting on the results of a y-DNA test to help me and am trying to prepare for my next leg of the search. Does anyone know if there were multiple Freeman families in Bertie? If there was just one Freeman family does anyone know who they were, and where they were from?

3/28/2018 at 8:06 PM

Hi Private User

Can you copy / paste the Geni profile URL to this discussion ?

I don’t have any special knowledge of Freeman families sadly. But a link helps.

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