who was Egelina de Courtenay ??

Started by Marvin Loyd Welborn on Sunday, December 3, 2017
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who was
Egelina de Courtenay ??

Egelina de Courtenay (c.1402 - 1452) - Genealogy - Geni
Egelina de Courtenay

Egelina de Courtenay (c.1287 - 1335) - Genealogy - Geni
Egelina de Courtenay

Egelina de Courtenay (c.1164 - 1214) - Genealogy - Geni
Egelina de Courtenay

a Google search reveals her to be multiple persons

Here's what MedLands has to say about the first Egelina:

[Daughter of Renaud de Courtenay and second wife Hawise d'Avranches - be careful, there are lots of Hawises in this time period!]

AIGELINE de Courtenay (-after 1219). The chronology dictates that Aigeline must have been her father’s daughter by his second marriage. "Gilebertus Basset" granted land at Bicester and other properties to the prior of Bicester, for the souls of "mee et uxoris mee Egeline et liberorum nostrorum", by charter dated to [1182/85], witnessed by "…Egelina uxore mea, Aliz Basset…Thoma Basset, Fulcone Basset…"[217]. King John confirmed the grant of "manerio suo de Strafford" to "Gilberto Basset et Eggelin uxori eius" by charter dated 21 Mar 1200[218]. The presence of Aigeline in the grant suggests that the property in question had previously been held by her family. A charter of King Edward II records that “Gilebertus Basset” founded Bicester priory, Oxfordshire, for the souls of "…uxoris meæ Egelinæ et liberorum nostrorum", witnessed by "uxore mea Egelina…"[219]. "Aquilina de Curt" donated "totam terram meam de Swthona" to Bicester priory, for the souls of "patris mei Reginaldi de Curt et…matris mee et…sponsi mei Gilleberti Basset et filii mei Thome Basset", by charter dated to [1205/06], witnessed by "Robert de [C]urt, Thoma Basset…"[220]. The Testa de Nevill includes a list of landholdings in Oxfordshire, dated 1219, which includes "Egelina de Curtenai" holding land "in Craumerse…hundredo de Langetroe…[et] in Burnecestre…in hundredo de Pockedelau"[221]. m GILBERT Basset [I], son of THOMAS Basset [I] of Headington, Oxfordshire & his wife Alice de Dunstanville (-[1205/06]).
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamsensjoi.htm#RenaudCourtenaydied...

Once the name got into the family, it could be reused in later generations.

There was an update in 2019 by Douglas Richardson, disputing Medlands.



Douglas Richardson, Post at SGM, 6 November 2019 < GoogleGroups >

Published at "Royal Ancestry" D. Richardson Vol. II. page 314

Reynold de Courtenay, of uncertain parentage. He married (1st) an unidentified wife, ____, kinswoman of Queen Eleanor of Aquitaine. They had three sons, William, Robert, and Reynold, and one daughter, Egeline. He married (2nd) after 1173 Maud FitzRobert. He was first recorded as holding lands in Devon in 1175-6. Sometime prior to his death, he granted two islands in the Thames between Witteneiam [?Wittenham] and Wadeiam [?Waddeson] to Abingdon Abbey. He died before Michaelmas 1191. In 1204-5 the king presented to the chapel of Musbury, Devon, which should have been in his widow, Maud's gift. In 1215 the king directed the Constable of Wallingford to deliver to her seisin of the vill of Waddesdon, Buckinghamshire, which formed part of her dower. In 1220 she sued Robert de Courtenay an Reynold de Courtenay (her nephews and step-grandsons) for the manors of Oakhampton, Chawleigh, Chulmleigh, Kenn, and Musbury, and Sampford, Devon and Hemington, Somerset, which she claimed as her right; Robert answered that no claims under French titles were valid; Maud rebutted that the properties were in England and she was English. Maud died shortly before 3 August 1224. In 1227 a mandate was sent to the sheriff of Gloucestershire ordering him to make enquiry of Peter FitzHerbert concerning scutage for the manor of Okehampton, Devon which belonged to Maud de Courtenay.


I am unclear whether she should be placed as daughter of Renauld ‘Reynold l’ de Courtenay as Richardson has it, or his son, Renaud ‘Reynold ll’ de Courtenay

The latter is probably less controversial.

Opinions welcome.

Wow. Digesting all this. Thanks, Erica Howton

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