Robert de Cardinham - Correction needed

Looks like his wife is also his sister.
" Henricus Dei gratia rex Anglie, etc. . . . salutem. Inspeximus cartam Roberti filii Willielmi et Agnetis uxoris sue et Roberti, filii sui, in hec verba :

Think he should be Master Profile, I'll find a picture for him, also think there might be a duplicate because I thought he already had a picture.

He is my 24th gg atm

Shaz

Correction mother in law is sister

Birth: Circa 1175 - Blyngton, Devon, England
Death: 1230 - Cardinham, Bodmin, Cornwall, England
Parents: Robert Fitz William De Cardinham, Agnes De Cardinham (born De La Haye)
Wife: Isabella De Cardinham (born De Hastings)
Daughter: Juliana De Bodrugan

Yes duplicate, only on an iPad so sorry to have multiple posts.
Robert de Cardinham

The 1st profile for Robert de Cardinham gives him a son, Andrew - whose only daughter inherited & married Thomas de Tracy. Fine -- but, her geni profile gives her 2 husbands: the 2nd being Hugh de Ferrers, with a son by him.

The 2nd profile for Robert de Cardinham & Blyngton, gives Isolde both Roberts as husbands - meaning this 2nd profile comes up as my grandmother's husband. Geni gives me 2 lines here - each from a different daughter ( Emma & Juliana) - no Andrew

Also I cannot find a 'Blyngton, England?!

Possibly this profile was the brother in law of the Robert with the picture, with correct parents, possibly a bad merge. We should check if Isolda has a brother and if this could be changed to him that way?

It's a bit of a mess, I'm not a manager and do not have access to best records.

I think I found the snarl & am undoing / re doing. Check now. We need manor images uploaded to profiles to help keep the Roberts (string of 4 at least) clear

OK will get on to images, looks ok so far :) 25th GG :D

The seal in Robert de Cardinham belongs to him, I cannot change the other image to his son, then 3 Roberts have images.

Erica Howton

Done, looking very nice !

Wiki seems to have it mixed up https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cardinham-5

Yes, their tree is a mess. Good sources though.

Husband of Agnes de la Haye and Isolda de Soligny, in notes still.

Isolda is Emma Prideaux's wife who marries younger Robert and from memory has something to do with Arlington. Wondering is she is in wrong place as daughter here, or even Emma Prideaux married again?

Husband of Agnes de la Haye and Isolda de Soligny, in notes still.

Isolda is Emma Prideaux's mother who marries younger Robert and from memory has something to do with Arlington. Wondering is she is in wrong place as daughter here, or even Emma Prideaux married again?

Husband of Agnes de la Haye and Isolda de Soligny, in notes still.

Isolda is Emma Prideaux's mother who marries younger Robert and from memory has something to do with Arlington. Wondering is she is in wrong place as daughter here, or even Emma Prideaux married again?

Maybe take de Soligny out of the notes in the wrong place.

Jim Weber followed the research posted on soc.gen.med

https://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweb...

We can no doubt find the discussions in the archived mail list at google groups

https://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweb...

1. Emma PRIDEAUX was born ABT 1205 in Prideaux Castle, Fowey, Cornwall, England, and died AFT 1230 in Penhallam Manor, Jacobstow, Cornwall, England.

She was the daughter of 2. Richard PRIDEAUX and 3. Iseult (Isolda) de SOLIGNY , Heiress of Fawton.

She married Robert de CARDINAM , of Blyngton, son of Robert de CARDINAM & Blyngton and Isabella FITZWILLIAM. He was born ABT 1202 in Cardinham, Bodmin, Cornwall, England, and died AFT 1251 in Blyngton, Devon, England.

https://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweb...

The only candidate that I have seen put forward for Iseult de Suligny's husband is Richard Prideaux, proposed by Hylton in his History of Kilmersdon, but I don't recall that he named a source. The chronology suggests that he must be referring to Richard de Prideaux who witnessed a charter of Robert de Cardinham to Lostwithiel in 1186. Neither MacLean nor R. M. Prideaux' history of the Prideaux mention the connection.

She's missing her daughter

Emma de Prideaux

Emma de Cardinham, heiress of Arlington born after the death of her father Robert de Cardinham & Blyngton.Agnes de la Haye is over 55 years old for the birth of her child Emma de Cardinham, heiress of Arlington.

Update the dates ?

I think this is her family, some have her with a brother Richard, could be her father.

Richard de Prideaux, Lord of Prideaux

Or does she need to be moved?

Payn de Prideaux

Might be ficticious and in fact above Richard de Prideaux could actually be the son of Richard Fitz Thorold meaning she can be a de Cardinham, but I think she is in the wrong place there.

Both of these manors were held by Richard Fitz Thorold from Robert, Count of Mortain, William the Conqueror's half brother. If Paganus existed, and he was "lord of Prideaux," he would apparently have been a vassal of Richard. It is unclear whether the manor named Prideaux (from its form apparently a Norman-French word) was in fact an Anglo-Saxon place name, perhaps Pridias, existing before the Norman Conquest, and was granted to Paganus who thenceforth took the surname de Prideaux from it, as was usually the case, or whether Paganus was lord of a manor in Normandy called Prideaux, which name he then gave also to his new English landholding, a more unusual scenario.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prideaux_Castle

Here's Visitation page from Pagan

https://archive.org/stream/visitationcount02camdgoog#page/n237/mode...

I hooked Emma's father in, but there's a confiict about her brother's wife - Geni has her as the nephew's wife - so didn't enter him as a profile.

That looks good, could Emma de Cardinham be daughter of Robert and Emma Prideaux?

There is some uncertainty but I've placed Emma de Prideaux there as per Jim Weber's database