Hans Jacob Brits, SV/PROG

Private User

6/30/2018 at 2:29 PM

Why is the date of death shown as 15 February 1729 when MOOC10/3.43 dated 19 December 1722 refers to him as being deceased? This is also supported by the inventory for Frederik Corbach (MOOC8/4.56) dated 10 February 1725 that states "van den boedel van Hans Jacob Brits".

The date of death sources in this profile for Hans Jacob Brits refer to other websites as follows:

1) WikiTree (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Brits-69) - source attributed to Andrew Dippenaar but with no supporting evidence.
2) FamilySearch Family Tree (https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LZPC-D39) - there is no supporting evidence for the date of death.

I propose that the date of death in this profile be changed to "before 19 December 1722" (or more accurately "from 23 November 1722 to 19 December 1722") - the inventories didn't occur too long after a person died.

Sandra Hughes PRO

7/1/2018 at 3:14 AM

Hello Michael
I have looked at the MOOC10.3.4.3: http://databases.tanap.net/mooc/main_article.cfm?id=MOOC10%2F3%2E43...

I have changed the incorrect info on my own MyHeritage profile for Hans Jacob Brits to Before Dec 19 1722, because I think your information is more correct and I accept your proposal to change the Geni.com profile as well.

Kind regards
Sandra Hughes

Susanna Johanna Steyn, b5c1d9e5f6g13h2i1j6

7/1/2018 at 8:07 AM

Hello Michael, het my groot oupa grootjie Hans Jacob Brits, SV/PROG se sterfdatum verander op www.geni.com.
Dankie vir jou hulp

Sharon Doubell C

2/27/2022 at 8:33 AM

Death Date 15 February 1729 vs 19 December 1722?

J P Weyers

3/9/2022 at 1:33 AM

His date of death ? Why the confusion ?

J P Weyers

3/9/2022 at 1:35 AM

Hans Jacob Brits is your 7th great grandfather.

Surely date 1722 more correct ?

J P Weyers

3/9/2022 at 1:37 AM

Inventories of the Orphan Chamber
Cape Town Archives Repository, South Africa
Reference no.: MOOC10/3.43
Testator(s):
Dina Willemsz
19 December 1722
H:k Swellengrebel
Vendu rol van alle zodanige goederen als er door d ondergeteekende gecommitt:de Weesmeesteren aen Cabo
de Goede Hoop op den 19 X:br 1722 op de hofstede gen:t Koornhoop gelegen aen de Rivier Lijsbeek onder t
Caebse district publiquelijk aen de meest biedende verkogt zijn, naergelaten en met er dood ontruijmt bij
wijlen Dina Willemsz: gewesen huijs vrouw van wylen den burger Hans Jacob Brits, namentlijk

Marie Vermeulen-Boshoff C

3/10/2022 at 8:44 PM

Hans died between 23 Nov 1722 and 19 Dec 1722.

If you look at the MOOC doc MOOC 8/4.85 DATE 23 NOV 1722 of Dina.
Hans was still alive.
Mooc doc. MOOC 10/3.43 DATE 19 DEC 1722. wylen Hans Brits and wylen Dina.

J P Weyers

3/10/2022 at 9:27 PM

-- bij absentie van haar man gestelt-- 23 November 1722

J P Weyers

3/10/2022 at 9:37 PM

19 December 1722 was her distribution account not her husbands .

So was 23 Novemver 1722 their combined will or his distribution account ?

J P Weyers

3/10/2022 at 9:51 PM

Marie - from what I read she was still alive 23 November 1722 unless she died later that day after signing the document
Her husband possibly still alive as he made his mark ?
So most likely both of them died between 23 November 1722 and 19 December 1722

J P Weyers

3/10/2022 at 11:13 PM

Dina Ockersz Olivier

J P Weyers

3/10/2022 at 11:15 PM

Aldus geinventariseert op voorn:e plaats gelegen aan de Libeekse Revier den 23 November 1722

Gecommitt:e Weesm:ren: P:s R:s de Savoije, Hend:k Oostwald Eksteen

Dit is 't + merk van Hans Jacob Brits

Dit merk heeft + Magdalena Brits bij absentie van haar man gestelt

Dit is d' eijgen + handtekening van Cornelis Brits

Mij present: J:b Lever, Secretaris

J P Weyers

3/10/2022 at 11:16 PM

http://databases.tanap.net/mooc/

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J P Weyers

3/10/2022 at 11:20 PM

https://media.geni.com/p13/9d/fc/de/81/5344483a10b3ef56/databases_o...

J P Weyers

3/10/2022 at 11:22 PM

https://media.geni.com/p13/fa/da/b7/08/5344483a10b3b4b9/databases_o...

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Hans Jacob Brits is your 7th great grandfather. ---Phillipp Weyers

J P Weyers

3/10/2022 at 11:27 PM

Can not find origin of this :

Aldus geinventariseert op voorn:e plaats gelegen aan de Libeekse Revier den 23 November 1722

Gecommitt:e Weesm:ren: P:s R:s de Savoije, Hend:k Oostwald Eksteen

Dit is 't + merk van Hans Jacob Brits

Dit merk heeft + Magdalena Brits bij absentie van haar man gestelt

Dit is d' eijgen + handtekening van Cornelis Brits

Mij present: J:b Lever, Secretaris

- Inventories of the Orphan Chamber Cape Town Archives Repository, South Africa Ref no.: MOOC 8/4.85 op http://databases.tanap.net/mooc/

Sharon Doubell C

3/11/2022 at 10:53 PM

So I'm using comments above by Marie and Phillipp, and this in the About to lock date of death as between 23 Nov 1722 and 19 Dec 1722.

Hans Jacob Brits was alive on 23 November 1722:

Inventaris der goederen naargelaten en met 'er dood ontruijmt bij wijlen Dina Willemsz: ten voordeele van haar naargelatene man Hans Jacob Brits ... en 7 hare kinderen ... Een plaats gelegen aan de Libeekse Revier genaamt Koornhoff ... den 23 November 1722 [Inventories of the Orphan Chamber Cape Town Archives Repository, South Africa Ref no.: MOOC 8/4.85 on http://databases.tanap.net/mooc/]

He had died by 19 December 1722:

Vendu rol ... op den 19 X:br 1722 op de hofstede gen:t Koornhoop ... met ’er dood ontruijmt bij wijlen Dina Willemsz: gewesen huijs vrouw van wylen den burger Hans Jacob Brits ...

Sharon Doubell C

3/11/2022 at 10:54 PM

Let me know if anyone disagrees with that field lock.

Private User

3/12/2022 at 9:40 AM

FYI: The Tanap database has been down since January and no one seems to know what is happening.

Hans Jacob Brits, SV/PROG - Date of death

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