Elijah Bass - How many generations out are we accounting the Basses Nansemond?

Have you not read Kianga lucas blog ? Or Nikki bass the nansemond concil woman’s blog the great dismissal ?

So are you stating that Elijah Bass was a fake nansemond?

https://lookaside.fbsbx.com/file/Mary%20Bass%20Research%20Notes%20b...

Here is kiangas Pdf feel free to read it

https://nativeamericanroots.wordpress.com/tag/bass/
Here is Kianga blogs that shows the research she has done over the years with the bass families. Almost to the bottom of this it speaks of the bass.

And here is the full blog post of Kianga link below .. who has been researching the bass families along side with Nikki bass and Deloris William from which all three are genealogist.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nativeamericanroots.wordpress.com/2015...

Amy - I am really at a loss for words ...

It is not like I am placing Nansemond photos on "all Basses" and certainly not on anyone that does not descend from Elizabeth the Nansemond.

I find this "cultural requirement" idea of yours inappropriate.

Personally I am proud of my heritage and claim it all.
- Patty

Thanks Nicci

I AM NOT SAYING Elijah is a "fake Nansemond."

I am very familiar with Nikki's blog (we worked together on one of her lines!), and I am familiar with Deloris Williams.

I have been researching MY BASS FAMILY for MANY YEARS! I AM VERY PROUD OF MY HERITAGE!

It is an honest question, and as I said:

"I'm very much open to debate and discussion on this."

I really wanted to put this out there for honest discussion about what other folks consider appropriate here, how to handle profiles of Bass descendants who have the Bass/Nansemond heritage, but may no longer have ties with the community. I am willing to consider other viewpoints, but apparently the two of you are not!

That you would suggest that I am not proud of or do not want to claim my heritage is disgusting to me.

I want to be very clear here.

I am not denying the Nansemond ancestry of any of our Bass cousins, and I am fiercely proud in claiming it for myself. I am proud of my Nansemond heritage and proud of my Bass heritage. I happily put a lot of my own time into researching not only my own Bass line but the lines of other Basses. I've added hundreds of descendants of this Bass line to the Geni tree, with sources.

Your response is a punch in the gut.

What I think we’re talking about are ways to present names and ethnicities and other attributes on a genealogy site.

In the days before surnames we try to follow these conventions:

https://wiki.geni.com/index.php/Naming_Conventions#Native_American_...:

So with that said we will try to guide with simple rules.
The names in Native American Sources, overrule those in non Native American sources (1)

Original Native American Names before 1620 will only be one Name. This name goes in the "First Name " block and the Middle and last Name is left blank.

The Suffix may contain a special "thing " about the person, Uka, Chief and Principal Chief is common. Also a village may be indicated as in "Him-he-is, of my village"

If known the name should be hyphenated correctly

Any variations of the name is to be put in the AKA

The Ethnicity block (under the Personal tab) should contain the information in your source. Please do not guess at Tribe or clan/band etc. . If it is not in you source just list what you know. Fully it may look like "Wampanoag, Pokanoket , Paint" This information may be included in the "about" also if you wish.

The display name is very important. Many times this is the "common name" or "nickname" of the person. a good example of this is "Massasoit Osamequin" (display name) but the name would be input "Osamequin, Massasoit" with several AKA (nicknames)

His profile is at Ousamequin (Massasoit), sachem of the Pokanoket

So what about when surnames were used?

For me, it’s the same as any other person: name goes in Name fields, ethnicity in ethnicity field, biographical information in the “about.”

I’m going to start a Nansemond Project. That should help people track their families better. I will need help because I’m not overly familiar with this group.

https://www.geni.com/projects/Nansemond-Genealogy-and-History/49250

Please join, add profiles, spread the word ...

Geni has just added an attribute field to profiles, this could be a way to see native descent

See https://wiki.geni.com/index.php/Adding_Profile_Fields

Thank you Erica Howton

Is there anyone who has bass lines who has a gedmatch number or has joined the Nasmond project in gedmatch my number is A293395

Yes check with Rod Daye he is member he is on Facebook , he is on here and on the nansemond Gedmatch project ... just let you know that project hasn’t been o’kay’d by the tribe it’s self. From my understanding it was started by a non tribal member so be careful of that project. You could also contact Nikki Bass she does Alot of research and has is a tribal member she is also on Facebook here is her blog https://www.google.com/amp/s/descendantsofthegreatdismal.com/2016/0... I have quite a few lines of Bass my family stayed close net cousin to cousin marriages and I also have weaver. My lines are start with nansemond end with Haliwa saponi if Hollister North Carolina where my family is tribal card members of. I am on all dna sites I’ve tested with four and uploaded to the others. Iam on Gedmatch and I am in the nansemond dna project of Gedmatch that’s a “questionable” project.

One of the profile being mentioned here Elijah Bass is my sixth grandparent and one of the Haliwa saponi progenitors the Haliwa saponi are made up of many nations , nansemond, Tuscarora, saponi ect...

If you only use Paul Heinegg works, which by the way is questionable on many levels then you are only following what someone wrote about your family or maybe not your family depending on what line and branch you are from in this family. By using your DNA along with documentation than you would be much further ahead and probably will get more right than just using Paul Heinegg's works. In my family lines I have found more mistakes with Heinegg's works than any other researcher to date. He assume a lot when it comes to the relationships between parents and children and if you pay attention you will find his works have less credibility then you realize. I don't trust his work any more than I can throw the man, which sometimes I wish I could because he has created such a huge mess because most everyone takes his word but in reality they are completely destroying their own family trees when copying his works. SMH Do yourself a great justice and use both your DNA and your cousin matches along with written documentation to help form your family trees. BTW, I have found that 99.9% of families claiming to have NA do not have any in their DNA, therefore rely on your DNA and your matches to see if this tall tale is actually true or just a family lie or false legacy.