Mary Louisa Brewer (Short) - Native American

Started by Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 on Thursday, September 13, 2018
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9/13/2018 at 11:18 AM

She was said to have been Indian and called “short”

9/13/2018 at 12:47 PM

She’s listed as white on the 1870 Census.

The 1860 Census has no check offs on the page at all. I would read that everyone is white.

9/13/2018 at 12:48 PM

Same on the 1850 Census - no check marks.

9/13/2018 at 1:02 PM

Are you sure Nimrod was a son of Sarah Brewer & Ambrose?

Nimrod is listed as born in Georgia & is not mentioned as a child of Ambrose. There is also what looks like a Y DNA conflict on Ambrose’s profile.

9/13/2018 at 1:06 PM

I see a MyHeritage tree that lists Nimrod as

Parents:
Howell Brewer
1722 - 1816
Marion Brewer
1722

9/13/2018 at 1:14 PM

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/43552172/family
She married Howell Nimrod Brewer
I can tag you on Advent...

9/13/2018 at 1:36 PM

Lloyd Alfred Doss, Jr.

If I recall you have Brewers in TN. Can you come take a look at our current mess ? :)

I see two different lines in Census - Howell Nimrod, Nimrod

9/13/2018 at 1:41 PM

So somehow added Mary's husband Howel Nimrod Brewer as well as HIS father Ambrose in her line and am working to correct it.
I descend from Sarah Lanier and George Brewer. I have high hopes of finding the correct Brewers: http://home.lighttube.net/~jhb79/Brewer_Researcher/Welcome.html

9/13/2018 at 2:07 PM

Most other trees that I can list the father of Howell Nimrod Brewer, IV as Howell, who married Mary Fields, not Ambrose.

9/13/2018 at 2:20 PM

Michael Koller It looks like you are working on this line also

Your Howell Nimrod Brewer, IV married Mary Louisa Brewer

And you have Howell Nimrod Brewer, III as his father, son of Howell Brewer, II

We would merge at Andrew Jackson "Jack" Brewer

Who has Y DNA showing as l 1D

So before we go there, it would be good to get Sources into profiles, and not introduce a DNA conflict.

9/13/2018 at 2:26 PM

I am also descended from George Brewer and Sarah Lanier, however they were in Brunswick Co, VA, my line moved to NC and finally ended up in Kentucky and some on into Missouri. None of my direct line headed south to Georgia. I agree with Erica, I think Nimrod's parents are Howell and Mary Fields. I'll dig into it and see what I can find.

9/13/2018 at 2:31 PM

Thanks, Lloyd. Actually according to Mike Koller’s tree there’s a Howell > Nimrod Sr > Nimrod Jr. we need to get the profiles detailed with evidence to keep the lines straight.

9/13/2018 at 3:15 PM

I can fix it but might take some time....it is a tangled mess.

9/13/2018 at 3:25 PM

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/43552172/family?fpid=1267...
Does this show?
John BREWER II (1614 - 1669)
9th great-grandfather
John BREWER III (1635 - 1705)
Son of John BREWER II
George Gabriel BREWER (1668 - 1744)
Son of John BREWER III
Captain Lanier John BREWER Sr (1716 - 1795)
Son of George Gabriel BREWER
Ambrose BREWER (1753 - 1855)
Son of Captain Lanier John BREWER Sr
Howell Nimrod BREWER (1793 - 1875)
Son of Ambrose BREWER
Eliza C BREWER (1829 - 1892)
Daughter of Howell Nimrod BREWER
Nancy Jane HUDDLESTON (1852 - 1926)
Daughter of Eliza C BREWER
George W PRATT (1875 - 1947)
Son of Nancy Jane HUDDLESTON
Ossie Mae PRATT (1917 - 1999)
Daughter of George W PRATT
Geneive Melba EMERSON (1938 - 2014)
Daughter of Ossie Mae PRATT
Cynthia Viola Mae Hicks
You are the daughter of Geneive Melba EMERSON
This is what I have on Ancestry and am grateful for the professionals who KNOW

9/13/2018 at 4:37 PM

Not so sure your professionals that KNOW are necessarily correct. Just because they say it is so doesn't convince everyone. Documented proof is all that stands in the end. Keyword is "documented". Not saying they are wrong, just saying I don't take any "supposed" professional's word for it, we are all proven fallible on a regular basis.... This is also my lineage, and I'm not in this to find my Indian Princess like so many others, just want the TRUTH on here for historical reasons.

9/13/2018 at 4:43 PM

NO! lol By PROFESSIONALS I mean the ones who dedicate themselves and the TIME and WORK to actually verify and validate the lines

9/13/2018 at 4:45 PM

YOU "say" you can "fix it" and I am reassured and BELIEVE that you can...I am a professional myself and I HONOR my word lol. I am in this for the long haul and have been at it for decades. I am grateful for the HARD work and do NOT have any agenda other than FINDING my ancestors...not just adding "names" <3

9/13/2018 at 4:46 PM

I simply mean that I DO NOT KNOW and am GRATEFUL for the PROFESSIONALS... so sorry for ANY miscommunication

9/13/2018 at 4:48 PM

Geni is very different from Ancestry... I am counting on Geni to have the vetted genealogy...Understood? I am IN this... <3

9/13/2018 at 4:54 PM

ANd yet by the way...who is to say that one is NOT a princess? lol I have my Ancestry profile, etc, on public and am open to collaboration, etc. JUST the facts... between kin. Keep to what is VERIFIABLE and preferably FIRST hand. I have DELETED TOO many trees since first went online with Ancestry in about 1999 and NOW I SEEK DNA confirmation and triangulation for every match. Thank you, again.
Cynthiahcurtis@aol.com
gedmatch A183502
GenesisUS7857087 Cynthia Hicks Curtis

9/13/2018 at 4:56 PM

But "you" may call me Princess :D

9/13/2018 at 4:57 PM

I assume you belong to Ancestry so can you provide the documents the professionals spent all the time and work on to validate your lineage? If you can, it would make this much easier.

Think we have issues of different Ambrose Brewer's being mixed and confused. We have this Ambrose 1753 VA, 1855 TN line, complete with overview documentation.
Ambrose Brewer, Sr.

And here we have another Ambrose 1753 VA, 1855 TN, that you created, Howell Brewer, II

So yes, some work needs done to see who goes where, if they existed, who they married and when they were born/died. Yes a mess has been created but it can be fixed.

9/13/2018 at 5:01 PM

Cynthia

You shouldn’t put your email address on discussions, could pick up spam.

We are not professionals. Otherwise you’d be paying for services. You’ve subscribed to the platform, not the members.

Geni is a collaborative tree building platform, and its success & accuracy depends on the quality of each member contribution. And that takes Records and references to records, in each profile.

So to straighten out a complex line, please document profiles: see what I did for Howell Nimrod Brewer, IV

You need to supply evidence for the name Howell Nimrod Brewer because I don’t see it.

9/13/2018 at 5:02 PM

We are 8th cousins and George/Sarah are our common ancestors. My grandfather Nicholas was brother to your Lanier Brewer.

9/13/2018 at 5:08 PM

Sorry Cynthia if I seem cynical with my Indian princess remark. I apologize. It's just that we all have heard the stories from our family and few ever are truly "documented" as fact, mine never came to be. And I grew up sitting on the knee of my great grandmother Leona Brewer (Gross) hearing all of the stories of my "supposed" Indian heritage.

9/13/2018 at 5:18 PM

My mother is a direct Brewer descendant and on Gedmatch, I just ran her against yours and oddly enough, you share no matches with her. Can't figure that one....

9/13/2018 at 6:47 PM

Thank you again and again @Lloyd AND Erica... I have not heard ANY stories, sadly 😞😩 And IF @viagra commercial folks have MY EMAIL address... why not “family and friends “? Lol

9/13/2018 at 6:49 PM

Go 300/3 as I have run mine against wiki dna gedmatch numbers and have HITS INCLUDING X

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