Dr. James Beall - Fictional ?

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From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Beall-1186

Legend: James Beall married Anne Marie Calvert

The James Beall legend, as reported by Find-a-Grave, asserts that James Beall of Scotland married Anne Marie Calvert, born 1603, the daughter of Robert Calvert, born 1546, and Margaret Margaret (Cubie) Calvert (1557-1645). [2]

The implication of Ninian Beall having a Calvert mother would be that surely she was a member of the family of Charles Calvert, Lord Baltimore, who founded Maryland, accounting for Ninian Beall's prominence in early Maryland. But not facts support this.

Fredric Z. Saunders' second challenge is to anyone who can find documentation that a person in this time and place named James Beall actually married an Anne Marie Calvert.[4]

Saunders adds that "until the popularity of the Internet in the last few years, I had never seen any allegations as to the wife of this Dr. James Bell. Since then allegations are that the wife of this man that I haven't yet seen evidence even existed is Anne Marie Calvert, parents unknown. Yours is the first mention I have seen of possible parents for them.

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One mustn't forget that the Calverts were not Old Aristocracy - they were upstarts who acquired a title in 1625 because they got very rich and went into politics. Before then they are not a particularly well-known or well-studied family.

They were from Yorkshire, not Scotland.

They were *not* male-line descendants of the Calverleys (wrong Y-DNA haplogroup).

Leonard Calvert *did* have two wives: Alice Crossland, and her cousin Grace Crossland. These Crosslands were also from Yorkshire, not Sussex. http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1604-1629/member/ca...

The Calverts have themselves been the subjects of a lot of mythmaking....

Interestingly, neither the Calverts nor the Crosslands occur in the original Visitation of Yorkshire, 1563-1564. https://archive.org/details/visitationofyork00flow/page/n11 They're not even found in the Index.

1584 and 1612 Visitations do not seem to be publicly available except for some scattered notes.

Croslands, but not Calverts, show up in Dugdale's Visitation of 1665, with the first entry (Thomas Crosland d. 1587) clearly dated to the Tudor era.

my 8th great grandparents!

Dr. James Beall and Anna Marie Calvert Beall are my 8th great grandparents. His parents are Alexander and Margaret Ramsey Beall. Dr. Beall was DDivinty for the Presbyterian Church in Scotland. I don't believe that this is fictional. Ann Marie Calvert Beall also from Scotland. Ann Marie's parents were Margaret Cubie and Robert Calvert.

Do you have references please ?

Erica,
I will put what I find

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/83129354/james-beall

Here his find a grave.

Billie

Here something else.

https://bundlesoftwigsandflowers.com/2016/01/02/the-ringing-of-the-...

http://www.multiwords.de/genealogy/Be11%20Ninian%20Beale.html

https://books.google.com/books?id=AXdzoxq2NX8C&pg=PA14&lpg=...

James Beall, about 1603-1646
Anne Marie Calvert, about 1603-1646

Dr. James Beall (the Scottish spelling was Bell) was born about 1603 in Largo, Fifeshire, Scotland. He was a Doctor of Divinity, not a medical doctor. He was the son of Alexander Beall, about 1565-1612, and Margaret Ramsey. Several of James’s children left Scotland and emigrated to the colony of Maryland. Eldest son Ninian was a proud indentured political prisoner who encouraged his siblings to join him in the New World. James did not emigrate; he lived and died in Scotland.

James Beall was a well-educated man. He earned his PhD in Divinity from the University of Glasgow. Records show he was one of the Church of Scotland's earliest Doctors of Divinity.

James married Anne Marie Calvert, daughter of Robert Calvert and Margaret Cubie, about 1623 in St. Andrews Church, Fife, Scotland.

According to some descendants of the Calverts, a branch of the Calvert family who was Catholic fled England during the reign of Henry VIII (1491-1547) to escape the English Reformation, when Henry separated the Anglican church from the Roman hierarchy. They sought the protection of the Roman Catholic Bishop of St. Andrews in Scotland. However, they soon got caught up in the Scottish Reformation of 1560 and many Calverts converted to Protestantism. Anne Marie Calvert does not appear in records of those who converted. If she remained Catholic, this could have created problems for the Beall family.

Church records show James and Anne Marie had the following children, all born in Scotland:

1. (Colonel) Ninian Beall, about 1625-1717, well-known 6’7”, red-haired historical figure. Captured at Battle of Dunbar, sold into slavery, shipped to Barbados, then to Maryland where he achieved success and respect. He encouraged his siblings to join him there
2. Alexander Beall, about 1625-1655 (did not emigrate)
3. Mary Beall, born about 1627, married Pottinger, emigrated to Maryland
4. Charles Beall, born about 1628, emigrated to Maryland
5. John Beall, born about 1629
6. George Beall, born about 1632, emigrated to Maryland
7. James Beall, born about 1634
8. Sarah Beall, born about 1636, married Magruder, emigrated to Maryland
9. Thomas Beall, 1638-1732, married Elizabeth Lee, emigrated to Maryland 1659

Ancestery had this story.

James is listed in this book.

http://www.ronsgospelmusic.org/covebook/book1.pdf

http://wvancestry.com/ReferenceMaterial/Files/Ancestors_and_Descend...

BIOGRAPHY: Dr. James Bell was a doctor of divinity rather than a surgeon or medical doctor. The University of Glasgow found some records for me a year ago, showing he was one of the Church of Scotland's
earliest. (: Stacey Martin )

http://www.phillippy.com/wkpancestry/wkpg77.htm

He’s real he found University of Glasgow as having doctorate of divinity in Scotland he was clergyman.

Billie

Great - so there should be Scotland records.

Anna Marie CALVERT was born 1603 in Fifeshire, Scotland. She married Dr. James B. BEALL on 1623 in Largo, Fifeshire, Scotland.

BIOGRAPHY: Dr. James Bell was a doctor of divinity rather than a surgeon or medical doctor. The University of Glasgow found some records for me a year ago, showing he was one of the Church of Scotland's
earliest. (: Stacey Martin )

Private User Any suggestions on how we could find Dr Bell D.D. of the University of Glasgow, supposedly married a Calvert ?

The book looks interesting, thank you.


One Beall family article states that Ninian Beall's father was Dr. James Beall of Largo, Fifeshire, Scotland, and that he was born in the year 1625 at Largo in East Scotland. The article claims that Ninian grew to be seven feet tall and had red hair. ...”

Erica,
I was blown away at the Cromwell Dunbar battle found video on history of captured prisoners and skeletons of prisoners was found in mass grave near English church Col. Ninian Beall had horrible life he was considered as low as any slave white black all same. He would been chained whipped had to watch many other scots die or be slaughtered on trip from Scotland to English church where held prisoner till sent to Barbados, that video I posted on Col. Ninian Beall page might give you clues what Beall family was up against with Cromwell. Sounds like they took whole families as well into slavery so records may be difficult to find on parents but we don’t know what happened to siblings and parents after Col. Ninian Beall was drug off. Since spy’s all around from Cromwell people and Ninian Beall fought they could be targeted by Cromwell people who knows. I sure all there lives was very hard spent with the waves of changing religion factions over the 2-3 generations don’t forget Henry VIII destroyer of churches there may not be records left or scattered documentation. Wonder if the islands have any records of Col. Ninian Beall that be interesting to see those slave records on him.

Just thoughts out there.

Billie

Prisoners from the Battle of Dunbar in 1650 were ransomed back to their families if they were prominent / wealthy: Cromwell couldn’t afford to keep them. Apparently those kept were young Highlander’s, not lowlanders. There were “a bunch” sold to New England; one group to the first Ironworks at Saugus. They served a standard seven year indenture contract, had housing and acquired a valuable skill. After “freedom” many married, thrived, and have Descendants today:

https://www.geni.com/projects/Scots-Prisoners-and-their-Relocation-...

I imagine though the Barbados prisoners had a different outcome.

Erica,

Here little video about the POW going to Barbados so we know he was shipped to Barbados from the story. I assuming they had stop over at the church before right after battle where some of the prisoners kept.

NINIAN BEALL, may have been born in Largo, Fifeshire, Scotland, in 1625. He held a commission as cornet in the Scotch-English Army, raised to resist Cromwell. He fought in the battle of Dunbar, 3d Sept. 1650, against Cromwell, and was made prisoner at that battle, and sentenced to five years servitude. He was sent with 150 other Scotchmen to Barbadoes, West Indies. About 1652 they appeared in the Province of Maryland. Ninian BEALL served his five years with Richard HALL, a planter of Calvert Co. (see also )

https://gorrenberry.com/barbados-pow-scots/

Billie

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