attention curators - Please merge (Richardson family)

That second Thomas II should be
Thomas Richardson, of Standon

Thomas Richardson's parents are unknown. However, a groundless internet fantasy gives his parents as Ralph Richardson and Jeanne Mychiell of the island of Jersey. They have been detached. See the following website which discusses Ralph and why this particular Thomas is not the son Thomas that Ralph had: http://www.tracyandfamily.com/thomas-richardson-of-westmill-sr/ [1]

The “traditional” Richardson pedigree begins with Katherine Duxford & Thomas Richardson

https://archive.org/details/richardsonsofwes00watk/page/n14

The Richardsons of West Mill, Herts, England, and Woburn in New England
Author Watkins, Walter Kendall, 1855-1934. Page 5

Private User

Channel Islands - want to curate?

Jeanne Richardson & Ralph Richardson, of England and Jersey

Thanks :)

Thomas is still attached here, I am un sure what is to be done :)

I was adding links back in profiles - I’m disconnecting both Jane Rygge & Thomas Richardson as children of Ralph & Jeanne.

K Thanks, I have not found sources for them yet either, but have MP'd them and put her in project, so as to keep an eye on it.

Will leave notes on profile.

Private User There is more spurious pedigree attached Ralph & some real descent.

See http://www.tracyandfamily.com/ralph-richardson/

Ralph Richardson is not only not related to Bedo ap Richard but also is not be the father of Thomas Richardson I of Westmill.

1 Ralph Richardson m Jane Mychiell, d of John

2 Thomas Richardson
3 John Richardson m Isabel Le Marquand, d of Raulin
4 Nicholas Richardson (1571- )
4 Jane Richardson m John Collas
3 Hugh Richardson ( -1598) m Phillippine de Quetteville, d of Michael
4 Nicholas Richardson m Jeanette Le Quesne, d of Richard

(He’s quoting from the CI Island Wiki)

Thanks was hunting her side because his looked too English.
Will check and disconnect from parents, I had ot MP'd him yet, always get sus to see ap ____ :)

Edward Richardson of Newbury Was not known to be related to the Westmill Richardson family. The Richardson Memorial claims William of Newbury was his brother.

Edward Richardson of Newbury

https://archive.org/stream/richardsonmemori00vint#page/813/mode/1up

The Richardson memorial, comprising a full history and genealogy of the posterity of the three brothers, Ezekiel, Samuel, and Thomas Richardson, who came from England, and united with others in the foundation of Woburn, Massachusetts, in the year 1641, of John Richardson, of Medfield, 1679, of Amos Richardson, of Boston, 1640, of Edward and William Richardson, of Newbury, 1643, with notices of Richardsons in England and elsewhere ... Author Vinton, John Adams, 1801-1877

OK, there is a revised tree for Ralph:
Jean Richardson

https://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Descendants_of_Ralph_Richar...
Only Thomas mentioned on it as a dec.

Here we have Thomas and Edmund:
https://archive.org/details/armorialofjersey00paynrich/page/n557

Ralph Richardson, presumed to have been an officer in the army of Richard III, came to Jersey after the King was killed at the Battle of Bosworth in 1485. He must have had previous connections to Jersey because he became a tenant of the Seigneur of Rosel and is believed to have farmed 70 vergées in St Martin. There is some dispute about the timings because family tradition has it that he arrived immediately after the battle, the last significant engagement of the English Civil War, and took up farming then.

However, 19th century historian J Bertrand Payne, in his Armorial of Jersey says that Ralph took up farming in St Martin in 1507, four years after the birth of his son Thomas in England and the death of his wife.

Ralph married Jane Mychiel, daughter of John, in Jersey, but their son Thomas was born in England. He had a son, also Thomas, who stayed in England and his lineage is traced in one of the trees below. Another of Ralph's children, Edmund, was born in Jersey, and other sons of Thomas also established families in the island. One branch moved to Guernsey, where their surname was corrupted to Reserson. The two island families were united by the marriage of Clement Richardson and Jacquine Reserson in the 18th century.

This was very much a St Martin family and the first baptism was recorded there in 1599. Although the family largely remained in the parish, it did spread into neighbouring Grouville, Trinity and St Saviour, and ultimately throughout the island, most notably in St Ouen.

https://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Richardson

I think there are strong ties to England, and family lines there, so entering this to make sure that this line is considered and possibly re connected in some way.

Sorry wrong link :)
Ralph Richardson, of England and Jersey

Very nice! I’m sure there are Links “down tree” (but not in America).

Amos Richardson, of Stonington Is not part of the Westmill Richardson family.

You two have done a fantastic job of clearing things up!
But 2 questions remain -

1. Who are all the kids with the surname of Silverside, children of Thomas Richardson, l, of Westmill ? Are they Richardsons? Or is that one of those customs where half the kids have the mother's surname and half have the father's?

2. Are the parents of Mary Richardson really Champneys? (Since there was a Mary Champney wife of Thomas II.)

Linda, I think the Silverlakes are just typo entries. If you tick off “automatically create surname” and enter without a father, you’ll get that result. I’m merging them in. It goes slow.

The lesson for me is please do not enter profiles without a reference. All the new ones are duplicates ....

I think those entries at the Silverlake generation should be one down at the Duxford generation

https://www.wyman.org/Genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I50772&t...

Linda, a good list of references for the emigrant Richardson’s here

https://www.wyman.org/Genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I50772&t...

The children of Thomas Richardson, of Standon & Katherine Richardson

Children:
i. Elizabeth (ca1593-22 Jun 1630)
ii. John (ca1596-)
iii. James (ca1600-)
iv. Samuel (ca1604-23 Mar 1658)
v. Ezekiel (ca1606-21 Oct 1647)
vi. Margaret (ca1607-)
vii. Thomas (ca1608-28 Aug 1651)

So George Richardson, of Watertown does not belong to this family

Perhaps John Richardson, Sr., of Maine was the brother of George.

Mary Richardson Reference for parents was since removed from the source citations.

This is before parish registers. It is unlikely her origins will ever be known.

I believe I’m done with this cleanup & will lock it up.

1 Ralph Richardson (1455-1520) m Jeanne Mychiell (1462- )
2 Thomas Richardson (1497- ) m Mrs Mary Richardson (1501- )
3 Thomas Richardson (1523-1630) m Mary Champney (1527-1634)
4 Thomas Richardson (1543-1634) m Margaret Silverside (1541- )
5 Thomas R. Richardson (1570-1633) m Katherine Duxford (1565-1631)
6 Ezekiel Richardson (1601-1647 m Susannah Bradford (1610-1681)

https://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Descendants_of_Ralph_Richar...

Theophilus Richardson (1633-1674) m Mary Champney (1639-1681)

No, Channel Islands Wiki is wrong.

http://www.tracyandfamily.com/ralph-richardson/

1 Ralph Richardson m Jane Mychiell, d of John

2 Thomas Richardson **
3 John Richardson m Isabel Le Marquand, d of Raulin

**This Thomas did not go to Herts, he stayed on the Islands & had son John.

Example that this page is flawed

https://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Descendants_of_Ralph_Richar...

6 Ezekiel Richardson (1601-1647 m Susannah Bradford (1610-1681)

The name “Susannah Bradford” is spurious, no one knows her origins

'Goodwife' Susanna Brooks

The registers at Westmill in Herts begin with many Richardson’s already there. If there was Channel Islands back & forth or Migration etc it’s not at all obvious from Records, which show them as husbandmans, farmers, tanners ...

This is the tree of Thomas, son of Ralph & Jane

http://www.tracyandfamily.com/ralph-richardson/

1 Thomas Richardson m (1605, Gr) Jeanne Giffard, d of Richard )Thomas is possibly the son of Jean and Marie Averty, of Grouville, or Thomas and Anne Le Ray, of St Martin)

2 Jeanne Richardson (1605- )
2 Elizabeth Richardson (1606- )
2 Richard Richardson (1609- )
2 Thomas Richardson (1609- ) m Elizabeth Bree

OK I shall leave that side to you anyhow, just making sure. It is said that Thomas moved to CI 4 years after birth of son Thomas and death of wife.

Would he have left his son Thomas in England, and married again to Jane, having another Thomas? Just a thought and only possible way I think he could be the father of Thomas England.

"However, 19th century historian J Bertrand Payne, in his Armorial of Jersey says that Ralph took up farming in St Martin in 1507, four years after the birth of his son Thomas in England and the death of his wife."

Will of Thomas Richardson son of John of Durham 04/05/1679, 06/11/1679

https://www.priaulxlibrary.co.uk/articles/article/wills-and-legacies