Pieter Daniel Rossouw, b9c3d1e6 - Mismerges?

Started by Sharon Doubell on Monday, March 18, 2019
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Nico Conradie (inactive) says: Managers of Pieter Daniel Rossouw, b9c3d1e6,

It is clear from this person's numbering (he is b9c3d1e6, but his father is b9c3) that something went wrong. I suspect a horribly wrong merge occurred.

(The "Pieter Daniel" is also incorrect. Also refer GISA's SAG. He was merely "Pieter".)

The 4 Aug 1782 Drakenstein (Paarl) baptism is here:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSV8-W94M-T?i=477&...

Pieter was indeed the son of Francois Rossouw, b9c3 and Maria Margaretha Rossouw, but the numbering here is wrong.

I leave in your safe hands.

Regards

Nico

Pieter Daniel Rossouw, b9c3d1e6

Private User says
Hi, Thanks, Nico; is somebody going to fix this; I'm not that familiar with this tree?

Nico Conradie says Hi Gary, I had also hoped someone more familiar with this tree than I am, would assist.
Regards
Nico

Gary Neville van Wyk says
HI Sharon, Nico Conradie below has a good point (below) but I don't know how to fix this. I'm hoping that perhaps you could help?

Managers of Pieter Daniel Rossouw, b9c3d1e6,

It is clear from this person's numbering (he is b9c3d1e6, but his father is b9c3) that something went wrong. I suspect a horribly wrong merge occurred.

(The "Pieter Daniel" is also incorrect. Also refer GISA's SAG. He was merely "Pieter".)

The 4 Aug 1782 Drakenstein (Paarl) baptism is here:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSV8-W94M-T?i=477&...;...

Pieter was indeed the son of Francois Rossouw, b9c3 and Maria Margaretha Rossouw, but the numbering here is wrong.

I leave in your safe hands.

Regards

Nico

Pieter Daniel ROSSOUW, b9c3d1e6

Unmerging produces 3 profiles:

1.Pieter Rossouw
Pieter Daniel Rossouw, b9c3d1e6
Gender: Male
Birth: 04 August 1782
Death: 18 March 1859 (76)
Tulbagh, Breede River DC, Western Cape, South Africa
Immediate Family:
Husband of Maria Magdalena du Plessis and Anna Maria Hendrina Ziervogel
Father of Barbara Johanna Rossouw, b9c3d1e6f3; Anna Francina Rossouw, b9c3d1e6f2; Getruida Elizabeth Rossouw Cilliers, b9c3d1e6f4; Maria Magdalena Rossouw Alleman; Charlotta Johanna Rossouw Leibbrandt and 8 others
Added by: JJ Niemandt #b7c4d5e7f5g11h1 on 8 June 2009
Managed by: Magdalena Wilhelmina Rossouw Viljoen, JJ Niemandt #b7c4d5e7f5g11h1 and Lindie Fourie

2. Pieter Daniel Rossouw
Pieter Daniel Rossouw, b9c3d1e6
Gender: Male
Birth: 1790
Immediate Family:
Son of Francois Rossouw, b9c3d1 and Elsje Maria Hugo, b3c1d4
Husband of Maria Magdalena du Plessis
Father of Sara Susanna Rossouw, b9c3d1e6f1; Anna Francina Rossouw, b9c3d1e6f2; Barbara Johanna Rossouw, b9c3d1e6f3; Getruida Elizabeth Rossouw Cilliers, b9c3d1e6f4; Francina Louisa Rossouw, b9c3d1e6f5 and 1 others
Brother of Francois Daniel Rossouw Rousseau, b9c3d1e1; Aletta Margaretha B9c3d1e2 Roussouw, Sm; Margaretha Johanna Rossouw Westhof, b9c3d1e3; Elsie Maria Rossouw, b9c3d1e4; Anna Elizabeth Rossouw Rouviere, b9c3d1e5 and 4 others
Added by:Elizabeth Johanna `Bets` Lourens Steyn, b3c1d2e3f3g3h2i6 on 12 November 2013
Managed by: Hermanus Frederik 'Manus' Steyn, b1c3d6e7f2g2h2i1j1k1

3.Pieter Rossouw
x Daniel Rossouw
Gender: Male
Birth: estimated between 1752 and 1810
Immediate Family:
Son of Francois Rossouw, b9c3 and Maria Magdalena Rossouw, b11c10
Husband of Maria Magdalena du Plessis
Father of Francina Louisa Rossouw, b9c3d1e6f5
Half brother of Sophia Alida Brink, b1c1; Alida Brink, b1c3; Susanna Brink, b1c4; Maria Magdalena Brink, b1c2; Andries Brink, b1c5 and 8 others
DNA Markers: U4c1 details
Added by: Gary Neville van Wyk on 25 June 2017
Managed by: Gary Neville van Wyk

cf parent conflict on Francina Louisa Peiser

The question is who of her present 4 husbands does Maria Magdalena Russouw (1787 - 1832) (do Charl du Plessis and Maria Magdalena Roux) actually marry?

Pieter Daniel Rossouw (1782-1859)
or Pieter Rossouw
or Pieter Daniel Rossouw?through=6000000076835472953 (1790 - )
or x 24/07/1803 Pieter Rossouw (1782 -1859)

and to what extent is she being confused with Maria Magdalena Rossouw (≈ 25.6.1747 -) (do Daniel Rousseau (1707) & Maria le Riche)
x 29.5.1763 Andries Brink
xx 19.11.1780 Francois Josua Rossouw (≈ 9.9.1731) (s.v. Pierre Rossouw, b9 (1703) en Marie Retief)

Shew, that took all day to figure out:

Francois Josua Rossouw had two ‘Pieter Rossouw’ descendants who could have married Maria Magdalena Russouw:

1. A son, Pieter Rossouw b 1782, by his second wife Maria Magdalena Rossouw.

2. A grandson, Pieter Daniel Rossouw bap 1790 (s.o. Francois Roussouw & Elsje Marie Hugo) by his first wife Margaretha Hugo, Rossouw.

[This is first having already eliminated Francois’ other grandson, Pieter Daniel Rossouw bap 1789 (s.o. Gideon Rossouw & Johanna Susanna De Nikker) due to his having simultaneous kids with another woman Anna Sophia Rossouw Cilliers, b2c13d2e4f3)]

Piecing together the children, using baptisms & death certificates, it seems that Maria Magdalena Russouw?through=6000000013476198131 married Francois’ son by his 2nd wife, Pieter Rossouw (1782 – 1859).
This 1782 Pieter remarried Anna Maria Hendrina Roussouw Cilliers.
At the time of his death, he had over 10 children, including another Pieter!

Wow, thanks Sharon, what a tangled web that was!

:-) Started a Rossouw / Rousseau Project: https://www.geni.com/projects/Rossouw-Rousseau-Family-in-South-Afri...
All welcome to join and contribute.

Thanks so much, Sharon, for your time and effort in this respect. Sincerely appreciated!

:-)

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