Joseph Kent, I - Joseph Kent born 1636-7 in Taunton, MA

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Kent-1891 Suggests “parents unknown” and only wife Susannah George. Children: Joseph & Samuel.

“There is reference to a 1645 emigration, suggesting he was born in England, not Massachusetts”

Also found this:

NEHGR - "Joseph Kent... married Susanna, daughter of Peter George, and had four children."

Now we’re cooking:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/121784463/joseph-kent

Husband of Susanna George, they married in 1665 in New England.
Father of Susanna Kent who married Benjamin Cary, Jr.

In the "Mayflower Deeds & Probates", he signed over guardianship of Susanna to Deacon Samuel Newman, as she was a minor, and the youngest of his children.

Known Children:
*Joseph Kent, the eldest B: 1665 in Block Island, RI
*Samuel Kent B: 1668 D: 1737
*Joshua Kent B: 1672 D: Aug 11, 1675
*Susanna Kent Cary - see below

He arrived in Massachusetts from England in 1645 with his brother Joshua.

From https://sites.google.com/site/theneverendinghobbykentline2/home/jos...

Joseph first appeared in the United States in Dedham, Norfolk, MA. His brother, Joshua who had already been In Dedham as early at 1643, proven when he was admitted to the church in Dedham in September 1644.In November of 1644, Joshua went to England and returned in 1645 with his two brothers, John and Joseph. Joshua had gone back to England in October 1647 with his wife and again returned. Joseph’s approximate age, is shown in a law suit in Braintree, Norfolk, MA. The suit was between Widow Wilson and Thomas Faxon, both of Braintree, Norfolk, MA. Joseph testified on 19 March 1653 and stated that his given age was 16 years. So it is determined that Joseph was about 7 years old and John older, when Joshua brought them over from England. The hypothesis from genealogists is that the boys were either motherless or orphans and that Joseph and possibly John were placed in the custody of their aunt, Elizabeth Hardier of Braintree

Awesome, I didn't know what to do with Joshua Kent, of Dedham.

This Elizabeth Hardier of Braintree as their aunt?

Elizabeth Harding

I know, it’s a really cool find.

I guess there’s a theory that Susannah Kent was born an Austin & was a widow George ?

Here’s a discussion about the three brothers and their aunt. The book was recommended on one of the profiles (thank you Geni members!)

Genealogies of the Different Families Bearing the Name of Kent in the United States Together ... Author Lloyd Vernon Briggs Page 115

https://archive.org/details/genealogiesdiff00briggoog/page/n143

Also tagging the brother profiles:

Joshua Kent, of Dedham & John Kent, of Dedham & Charlestown

The will of Elizabeth Hardier:

Will of Elizabeth Harder, 1 4th, 1664:
I, Elizabeth Harder of Braintree, doe make this my last will, God having given mee only one Daughter, which is my only Childe. I: doe, give and bequeath my whole estate, moveable & Imooveable unto her, her heirs & assigns forever, excepting such legacyes as are hereafter Specified.; doe Constitute & ordain her my sole executrix of this my Last will & Testament & Doe Intreate my Loving Friends, William Needham ; Samuel Tomson of Braintrye to be my Overseers. I give unto Elizabeth Suanders. My Daughter’s Child £20. With my Bed I lye , with all belonging to it, to bee paid at the age of 18 years, or at the day of marriage, and if Shee Dye, if my Daughter have Farther Issue, I give it unto the next Child & if not then to Remaine unto my Daughter. I Give unto John Kent & Joseph Kent 40s apiece to bee paid within two years after my Decease- I Give unto Joshua Kent’s three Daughters 20s apiece, to bee paid to them when they are 18 years old, or at the Day of Marriage. I Give unto Benjamin Thomson 40s: to bee paid unto him within hafe a year after my Decease I Give unto John Day. £5. To be paid unto him when he is 20 yeares old, upon Constitution he Live with my Sonne or Daughter till hee be twenty year Old Elizabeth Harder.Test Samuell Bass. John Basse who deposed Oct 6th 1664 (Briggs., 1898, p. 114)

https://archive.org/details/genealogiesdiff00briggoog/page/n144 Page 116 definitely shows Susannah as born Austin, widow George, no death date given.

I’m disconnecting her as child of Peter George unless someone can present better evidence.

Harding, not Hardier. Gotta love Colonial spelling.

https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/r/o/t/Dave-Roth/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0004...

So I am wondering about the geography. Richard Harding was from Dunboro, County Devon. So I assume his wife, Elizabeth, was too.

Where are the other Kents from? Who else from County Devon settled in Dedham?

Were the three Kent brothers from Dunboro?

It turns out there was a well developed multi-manager profile for Richard Harding, of Braintree already. I'm not sure about the his parents, but the source I found might clear that up. Elizabeth was Elizabeth Adams of Weymouth, so we might be able to figure out how the Kent brothers were related to her.

Other sources say Richard Harding was from Northampton.

Elizabeth “Hardier” (Mother of Lydia Saunders) only had one child per her will. Elizabeth Adams a first wife?

http://weymouthhistoricalsociety.org/pdf/historical_sketch_appC.pdf

See p. 258. It looks like Adams, Sanders, and Harding families had adjoining land. We may be able to figure out Joshua, John, Joseph Kent relationship.

Richard Harding's first wife's name is unknown. He had two sons I believe, maybe Stephen and John. The sources give good information on the sons.

https://archive.org/details/fourcenturiesofh00hard/page/10

Elizabeth Adams d 1664 2nd wife mother of Lydia

2 children by 1st wife, John & Stephen

I’ll make a first wife profile.

This is great, we’ve found associated families.

Sanders were from Sudbury, County Suffolk. If that helps with anything. Adams is a West counties name.

Alternate birthdate / place for Lydia Sanders of 1629 in Sudbury Suffolk.

When did Harding emigrate?

We may have Harding’s stuck together.

I just added notes from GMB to Capt. Robert Harding, of Boston

Anderson Comments:

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/2496/42521_b158319-00182?pid=5...

Started new profiles John Harding, of Boreham & Marie Harding

So far parents of Capt. Robert Harding, of Boston but this John Harding left a Will, there are siblings probably still attached to John Harding, Sr., of Northampton

Looks like there’s a fight over which Harding is the ancestor of President Warren G., so I’ll be looking at Boyd soon.

I’m getting a mental handle on this southern MA branch. They came to fish very early with the Gorges Colony (1623 or even earlier). They may very well have been seasonal and back and forth.

These look like the two verified sons:

From http://www.oakbaydesigns.com/Maine/1harding.htm

John HARDIN born 1567 died 1637

Spouse: Mary ___

Children:
*Richard mariner engaged in fishing, died 12/27/1657 at Braintree, married (2) Elizabeth Adams, ancestor of Warren Harding;
* Joseph died 1630, married Martha Doane.

The Great Migration Project calls Martha Harding a widow & suspects her husband of dying before she emigrated.

This family picture looks “different” from the Little Boreham family to me. Despite the Harding book speculations I’m not feeling relationships. The Little Boreham people are Land loving Puritans.

Sorry - tagging John Harding, Sr., of Northampton & Mary Harding

Hatte Rubenstein Blejer it would be great if you reviewed the children now so we can lock relationships.

The children of John Harding, Sr., of Northampton?

Correct. I’ve moved over a couple both at Little Baddow to the other family.

I was just looking at John Harding, of Weymouth

I think he’s actually John, son of Richard and 1st wife, born 1620, d 1682, as per the Harding book

https://archive.org/details/fourcenturiesofh00hard/page/9

The only known children of John & Mary of Northamptonshire who came to America were John “Hardier” and perhaps Joseph, if he didn’t die before emigration.

That would mean there are three John’s to be merged:

John Harding, of Weymouth

John Harding, of Weymouth

And John Harding, of Weymouth

I think Mary Winsor mentioned in “Hardier’s” Will is a granddaughter

Son Stephen has a Mary

https://archive.org/details/fourcenturiesofh00hard/page/12

The 1584 Birth date for John Harding comes from this quote:

Https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=twtoke&id=I6468

(Which has the Marie Greene Mother, which is wrong)

John Harding's will leaves property to his brother, William, father of La dy Mary Harding Gorges, wife of Capt. Sir Robert Gorges, appointed Govern or of Plymouth Colony in 1623. His will further mentions his sons Richar d, Amos, John, Lemuel, and Oliver.; (Sir Robert was the son of Sir Fredin ando Gorges, one of the founders of the Plymouth Company which was charter ed in 1606).

Sir Robert Gorges lead a group of colonists from the port of Harwic k, County of Essex, England to the Plymouth Colony at Wessagussett, lat er Weymouth Landing, partly in Braintree of what is now Massachusetts, arr iving in August, 1623. Among those accompanying Sir Gorges were Richard H arding, wife and infant son, John Harding, wife and two young sons, and Jo seph Harding. These three were all cousins of Lady Mary Harding Gorges, a nd sons of John Harding of Barnstable, England and the first of the li ne to immigrate to America.

An additional sources are "A Briefe (sic) Narration of the Original U ndertakings of the Advancement of Plantations into the Parts of Amerika ( sic), Especially Showing the Beginnings, Progress, and Continuance of th at of New England" by Sir Ferdinando Gorges, 1658 and "Gorges, Sir Ferdina ndo, an Excerpt from the Columbia Encyclopedia."

https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:John_Harding_%284%29 Currently has John Harding of Weymouth born say 1610.

He’s still awfully old to have been serving in King Philip’s War.

https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=oldmankew&amp...

Also only has the two brothers Richard & Joseph.

Hatte Rubenstein Blejer I’m still not happy with John Harding, of Weymouth

The details / timeline don’t make a lot of sense to me.

What we know is:

John b. 1620, (??) who took the freedman's oath May 13, 1641, and drew land in Weymouth in 1643; moved to Gloucester in 1652; in 1665 he returned to Weymouth, where he died in 1682. He had one daughter, Sarah, who married John Whitmarsh of Weymouth.

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And we know about his ? Second marriage to a much older woman

Mary [Tybott] Harding

It'll be a couple of days until I have time and can focus. Back to the grindstone tomorrow a.m.