Query on Robert SPINKS and Elizabeth children

Started by Private User on Sunday, October 20, 2019
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There are several Robert SPINKS who married an Elizabeth and I think their children may have become confused.

Robert John Spinks, 1823-1908 (1823-1908) married Elizabeth Spinks (1837-1915)

Robert J Spinks (1852-1915) married Elizabeth Spinks (1858-1939)

Robert John Spinks (1871-1952) married Elizabeth A Spinks (1874-?)

This discussion is to confirm we have the correct children attached to the correct parents.

Robert John Spinks, 1823-1908 is currently on Geni with
* born 1823
* died 1908
* father - John (Spink) Spinks, Convict "General Hewitt" 1814 (1780-1859)
* mother - Ann (Carne) Riley - Spink / Spinks, Convict "Canada" 1810 (1784-1836)
* married 1854 to Elizabeth Spinks (1837-1915)
children
* 1855 Robert John Spinks (1855-1923)
* 1856 James Edward Spinks (1856-1926)
* 1858 Alfred Albert Spinks (1858-1914)
* 1860 Riley George Underwood Spinks (1860-?)
* 1862 Prosper Spinks, infant (1862-1867)
* 1862 Priscilla Spinks, infant (1862-1867)
* 1864 Joseph Henry Spinks (1864-1878)
* 1865 Leslie James Spinks (1865-?)
* 1866 William Willison Spinks, infant (1866-1874)
* 1868 Matilda Jane Spinks (1868-1955)
* 1870 Mary Louisa Beatrice Nicholson (1870-1964)
* 1872 Amos Saul Winter Spinks (1872-1891)
* 1874 Frederick Ernest Spinks (1874-1918)
* 1876 Rosina Elizabeth Cannan (1876-1900)
* 1878 Daniel Prosper Spinks (1878-1896)
* 1879 Robert Edward Spinks (1879-1956)
* 1882 Emma Florence Cannan (1882-1956)

Robert J Spinks is currently on Geni with
* born 1852
* died 1915
* father Edward Spink (1818-1880)
* mother Agnes Clara Spinks (1824-1865)
married 1876 to Elizabeth Spinks (1858-1939)
children
* 1877 Elizabeth Margaret Jones (1877-1933)
* 1878 John Thomas Spinks (1878-1964)
* 1879 Robert Edward Spinks (1879-1956)
* 1882 Emma Florence Cannan (1882-1956)
* 1886 William Henry Spinks (1886-1963)
* 1889 Ethel May Hatch (1889-1941)
* 1891 Lilly Agnes Buckley (1891-1954)
* 1896 Avis Emily Sly (1896-1981)
* 1898 Walter G Spinks, infant (1898-1901)
* 1901 Alice Eural Rhodesia Napper (1901-1964)

Robert John Spinks is currently on Geni with
* born 1871
* died 1952
* father Edward Spinks (1850-1916)
* mother Isabella Spinks (1847-1907)
* married 1895 to Elizabeth A Spinks (1874-?)
children
* 1882 Isabella Jane King (1882-1959)

I have found the following NSW records
* NSW Birth Record 938/1855 V1855938 42A - Robert J SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth
* NSW Birth Record 8424/1856 - James E SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Wollongong
* NSW Birth Record 13490/1858 - Alfred A SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Wollongong
* NSW Birth Record 16581/1864 - Joseph H SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Wollongong
* NSW Birth Record 15609/1866 - William W SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Ulladulla
* NSW Birth Record 18783/1869 - Matilda J SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Ulladulla
* NSW Birth Record 17962/1870 Mary L B SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Ulladulla
* NSW Birth Record 18508/1872 Amos Saul Winter SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Ulladulla
* NSW Birth Record 2030/1874 - Frederick Ernest SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Ulladulla
* NSW Birth Record 21222/1876 Rosina Elizabeth SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Ulladulla
* NSW Birth Record 22987/1877 - Elizabeth M SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Wollongong
* NSW Birth Record 23222/1878 - Daniel Prosper SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Ulladulla
* NSW Birth Record 24843/1878 - John Thomas SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Wollongong
* NSW Birth Record 27553/1880 - Robert Edward SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Wollongong
* NSW Birth Record 27553/1880 - Robert Edward SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Wollongong
* NSW Birth Record 27652/1882 - Emma Florence SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Milton
* NSW Birth Record 19588/1882 - Isabella J SPINKS, father Frederick, mother Isabella - Wollongong
* NSW Birth Record 24498/1886 - William H SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Woonona
* NSW Birth Record 24606/1889 - Ethel M SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Woonona
* NSW Birth Record 38613/1890 Lilly A SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Woonona
* NSW Birth Record 27368/1896 - Avis E SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Woonona
* NSW Birth Record 27219/1898 - Walter G SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Woonona
* NSW Birth Record 9107/1901 - Alice E R SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Woonona

I have not been able to locate birth records for the following
* 1860 Riley George Underwood SPINKS
* 1862 Prosper SPINKS
* 1862 Priscilla SPINKS
* 1865 Leslie James SPINKS

I have moved Isabella Jane King to be the daughter of Frederick Spinks and Isabella Spinks

The following children are listed under 2 sets of parents
Emma Florence Cannan (1882-1956)
* NSW Birth Record 27652/1882 - Emma Florence SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Milton

Robert Edward Spinks (1879-1956)
* NSW Birth Record 27553/1880 - Robert Edward SPINKS, father Robert, mother Elizabeth - Wollongong

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/133000312
Illawarra Mercury - Friday 17 March 1939 Page 12 shows that when Elizabeth SPINKS nee REEVE died in 1939 she had 11 children - 5 sons (4 living + 1 deceased) + 6 daughters (5 living + 1 deceased)
Their names are not listed.

On Geni we only have 10 listed
Daughters
* Elizabeth (deceased)
* Emma (living)
* Ethel (living)
* Lily (living)
* Avis (living)
* Alice (living)
Sons
* John (living)
* Robert (living)
* William (living)
* Walter (deceased)

From that it appears that all her children are attached to her on Geni except for 1 living son.

It would therefore be logical that Robert and Emma are her children

https://www.marywadefamily.org/webtrees/individual.php?pid=I14854&a...
Robert John SPINKS (1823-1908) married Elizabeth HARRIGAN (1837-1915)
* Robert John 1855-1929
* James Edward 1856-1926
* Alfred Albert 1858-1914
* Riley George Underwood 1860-1944
* Priscilla 1862-1867
* Joseph Henry 1864-1878
* William Willison 1866-1874
* Matilda Jane 1868-1955
* Mary Louisa Beatrice 1870-1964
* Amos Saul Winter 1872-1891
* Frederick Ernest 1874-1918
* Rosina Elizabeth 1876-1900
* Daniel Prosper 1878-1896
* Emma Florence 1882-1956

https://shadowlanduncoveringsherbrooke.wordpress.com/sherbrooke-fam...

Robert John SPINKS (1823-1908) married 1854 to Elizabeth HARRIGAN (1837-1915)
* Robert John 1852
* James Edward 1856
* Alfred Albert 1858
* Riley George Underwood 1860
* Priscilla 1862
* Joseph Henry 1864
* William Willison 1866
* Matilda Jane Matty 1868
* Mary Louisa Beatrice 1870
* Amos Saul Winter 1872
* Frederick Ernest 1874
* Rosina Elizabeth 1878
* Elizabeth M 1877
* Daniel Prosper 1878
* John Thomas 1878
* Robert Edward 1880
* Emma Florence 1882
* William H 1886

Robert SPINKS (1852-1915) married 1876 to Elizabeth REEVE (1858-1939)
* Elizabeth Margaret 1877
* John Thomas 1878
* Robert Edward 1879
* William Henry 1886
* Ethel M 1889
* Lily Agnes 1890
* Avis Emily 1896
* Walter G 1989
* Alice Eural Rhodesia Spinks 1901

For Riley SPINKS I have only found the following records

* NSW Birth Record 20115/1893 - Riley G M SPINKS, father Thomas H, mother Rebecca A - Lismore
* NSW Death Record 38267/1964 - Riley George U SPINKS, father Thomas, mother Rebecca Agnes - Auburn
These match to Riley George M Spinks

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