Hannah Anna Johnson (Allen) - Do we know for certain these are her husband and children?

Started by Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 on Thursday, April 30, 2020
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Do we know for certain these are her husband and their two children? If so can they be MO’d as well? This is my direct and I have never gotten further than Ruth Hannah Cockrum (Ruth Hannah Johnson Cockrum) . Also this Johnson is a direct for the former first lady so I trust someone has done a lot of searching/researching.

Thank you in advance for consideration and for discussion. I would like to trust the Geni on this one.

MP not MO lol

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 I can’t speak much to accuracy on the siblings but I completed the merge.

Oh gosh... I don't remember seeing a duplicate but there were only two children at the time and I had just checked my path to the former president Obama and saw that I am showing as a 5th cousin to to former first lady so I was even more curious since I have gotten nowhere with this common name in the past...
Thank you very much for that merge and even more so, thank you for the MP and the research that went into being comfortable to MP them.
Thank you Erica Howton

Is this her?:
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/229266:3753?tid=4...

Name: Hannah Johnson
Birth Date on Image: 02 Twelfth 1787
Translated Birth Date: 2 Dec 1787
Birth Place: Tennessee
Monthly Meeting: New Hope Monthly Meeting
Volume: Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy Vol. I

I just disconnected a Hadley husband and children. They were mistaken for the other Hannah again.
Can we lock her up, Erica Howton
We may never know her parents but we know who she is not.

Thank you for looking!

You mean Hannah ‘Anna’ Johnson

I don’t know who the Hannah Johnson in the New Hope Monthly Meeting records, but the form of Hannah Johnson (Translated Birth Date 2 Dec 1787 - died 12-14-1865) suggests a singlewoman, not a married woman; no relative is identified; and the meeting record is from Tennessee, not the Arkansas recorded as her death place in her profile.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:New_Hope_Friends_Meeting

Ah!
Thank you, Erica Howton! I did not see the details. Difficult for me to process but I am getting better at it.
So I think the best birth date for her is going to be the 1781 from the https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/i/l/Charity-A-Hilton/WEBSITE-0001/U... link and rules out the 1787 others have in their tree and likely due to this or other records.
Which means she probably was not born in North Carolina. I found a hint on Ancestry today with a map showing the trek from there to Arkansas as being nearly a thousand miles. This person is a Johnson descendant and is a small (9cM) DNA match to my full sister and not me so I am working with DNA again but looking for the records.
I was able to get her unmerged and merged THAT one to the Hadley wife.
Can we lock the husband field? And I will keep working on the list of children...

Relationships are locked. I put a ? after “Allen” - is there a reference for the Allen name, or is that legacy from the Hadley mixup?

Thank you, Erica Howton
No I don’t believe it is due to the two other Hannahs but I could be wrong.
I will look more closely tomorrow to see what I have in my notes for her.

https://wc.rootsweb.com/trees/150482/I64933/hannah-allen/individual

I’m going to leave this here and will look more closely tomorrow since I have logged off the desktop for the day

There’s no citation for a maiden name.

I am seeing a duplicate of her husband but he shows different parents:
Thomas D. Johnson
Thomas D. Johnson
Consistency Check:Thomas Johnson born after the death of his mother Elizabeth Wright. Elizabeth Wright

Hannah Hannah ‘Anna’ Johnson appears a duplicate with Hannah Hadley Hannah Hadley's parents.
Erica Howton please see
Hannah needs merged and disconnected from Samuel Allen and Hannah Allen as they are known to be wrong but what of the Thomas? I have been trying to locate a source for Thomas D. Johnson 's parents as PROOF.

Correct birth date for Thomas?: 27 Mar 1784 vs December 8, 1784

Thomas has long been seen as son of William and Diana.

He is seen as the 24 year old Thomas enumerated in the 1850 census with Diana but I am not 100% convinced this is her much less him

Got it!
That John A Johnson in the 1850 census is John Adams Johnson

I think I am ready to ask for MP flag on Thomas D. Johnson and lock to parents.
Thomas named a daughter Dianna Dianne Hutchinson after his mother Diana Johnson and a son has middle name of Adams John Adams Johnson for her as well.
Thank you for your patience.
I completed the merges and stacked Hannah.
It is nice to meet a new cousin. Johnson is a common name so this is not "easy" but I believe they are correct and am thankful for the lock.
Erica Howton will you please MP
Thomas D. Johnson ?

Also so of note is the name Morgan: Theopheluis Morgan Johnson which appears in some trees as a middle name for Diannah and is even noted in the DAR record that her name is not proven to be Morgan, just Dianna Adams :)

Thank you so much, Erica Howton

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