Can someone please help?

You type the profile without all digits,
Robert Jackson of Hempstead, Long Island, New York
was it this you meant?

Another thread claiming it might have been anopther Y-DNA
https://www.geni.com/discussions/175644

wiki thread.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Jackson-595

Yes Private User I tried that but it would not work. That is the more broader Y Haplogroup. My dad's haplogroup's are I-M223 then subclade 1-Z79 then I-BY103184 I purchased the Big Y which looks at 700 SNPs. But my question is would someone please take a look at my Jackson line because there is a group on FTDNA called Jackson Project and they are saying that my dad's dna does not match I know about all the profiles. Thank you very much for your help.

I was looking for someone who is impartial to take a look and see if they can either prove or disappove my Jackson Line. Please and thank you. Yes Robert's Haplogroup is also I-M223.

Alright here is the proper lineage. I knew somebody changed something.

John Jackson 1340-1392
16th great-grandfather
William Jackson de Lascelles 1395-1460
Son of John Jackson
William de Lascelles (II, of Hinderskelfe Castle) 1420-1505
Son of William Jackson de Lascelles
John Richard de Lascelles Jackson 1450-1533
Son of William de Lascelles (II, of Hinderskelfe Castle)
Michael Jackson Lascelles 1514-1594
Son of John Richard de Lascelles Jackson
George Robert Jackson Earl Of Angus 1540-1572
Son of Michael Jackson Lascelles
Thomas Jackson 1575-1635
Son of George Robert Jackson Earl Of Angus
Henry Jackson 1606-1686
Son of Thomas Jackson
Col John Jackson Sr 1640-1689
Son of Henry Jackson
James Jackson 1671-1735
Son of Col John Jackson Sr
General Joseph Jackson 1710-1769
Son of James Jackson
Major Benjamin W Jackson 1752-1842
Son of General Joseph Jackson
Ziba Jackson 1777-1848
Son of Major Benjamin W Jackson
Chalon Calfax Jackson (Reverend) 1815-1906
Son of Ziba Jackson
William Henry Jackson 1848-1923
Son of Chalon Calfax Jackson (Reverend)
George Washington Jackson 1875-1963
Son of William Henry Jackson
Leo Jackson 1901-1963
Son of George Washington Jackson
Jimmy Lynn Jackson 1943-
Son of Leo Jackson
Keri Denise Jackson
You are the daughter of Jimmy Lynn Jackson

So that makes sense why my dad's dna does not match Robert Jackson Plus I kept looking at that area of the tree cause something felt off but could not put my finger on it.

Question
Col. John Jackson b. 1645/1650 England I-M223
is it the same as
Col. John Jackson ?

Yes I believe so it fits Private User .

Now there is also a Captain John Jackson who has the same parents that my John Jackson has so I am wondering if they are the same people. Or are they different? I am open to any help with this. The dates are off.

Capt. John Jackson

Hello,

I see that Col. John Jackson of NY has been disconnected from his father Robert Jackson of Hempstead, Long Island, New York. To me the connection looks okay. It is backed up with sources such as wills, see History of the Jackson family of Hempstead, Long Island, N.Y., Ohio and Indiana on Ancestry.com https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/10298/images/dvm_G... and the fact that both father and son were prominent individuals in Hempstead, NY. I think that we need to be careful of taking the easy way out when searching for an issue and really examine the sources before making changes.

Keri Denise Jackson, ♊ Twin "A" What are the sources for the lineage that you posted above? How do we know that it is correct? A issue that I see with it is George Robert Jackson Earl Of Angus. He was not the Earl of Angus, this earldom was held by the Douglas family at the time. Also, "Earl of Angus" sounds distinctly Scottish, but the Lascelles family, to whom the pedigree supposedly leads back to, is from Yorkshire (in England). See here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/QArU...

Capt. John Jackson of Fairfield, CT and Col. John Jackson of NY are different people.

Hello Tamás Flinn Caldwell-Gilbert that is why I was asking for help. :) I believe that Capt John Jackson is probably the was of my Jackson line but am still trying to work everything out and research it. I don't know anything 100% but I do know that my father's YDNA is only English not a mixture like that of his mother. Some of the details I am still researching.

Oh and meant to reconnect them. Was not trying to take the easy way out. Sorry.

Because of the similar names I think my Jackson line just got merged in with Robert Jackson's line. As you know I have been working my way through tree and have not gotten to this part yet. I just found out the my father's YDNA does not match Robert's from what was told to me. So I started working on this and would really appreciate any help I can get. The names could be off because I just pulled them from my ancestry tree but have not finished researching them.

Somehow my Jackson line got merged with Robert's line and I am trying to figure out where that was. As far as the names that I have they came from other trees and like I said I have not been able to fully vet them yet. :) I share the broader I-M223 with Robert's line but then it splits to subclade I-Z79 and then subclade I-BY103184

Hey Tamás Flinn Caldwell-Gilbert I thought you connected Col John Jackson back as his son but it does not appear so. Should I reconnect it? My father's YDNA is not that common only three men share the I-BY103184 Haplogroup on FamilyTree DNA and 23 and me says so as well. I'm just trying to figure this out. The lineage I posted above was from one of the first trees I made. I found the "The New World Book of the Jacksons" that was printed for me in 1998 so I'm going to go through it and see if I can find anything. As always I really appreciate you.

Thanks! I see you reconnected. Sorry for being so slow to respond. Electricity has been intermittent today with the hurricane. I'll try to do some more digging tomorrow!

How far back are you confident in the documentation for your Jackson line? I'll be interested to see what your book has to say.

P.S. A fun math exercise! :-) There are 9 steps between your father and Robert Jackson, and I presume another 9-ish from Robert to the other individual who has a different YDNA result. Researchers estimate that non-paternity events happen in about 1%-3% of births. This is quite a small percentage, but if we apply the average of 2% to 18 births using the binomial distribution, we can see that between two modern-day descendants of Robert Jackson, there is about a 30% chance that there is at least one non-paternity event somewhere in those 18 generations that connect the two of them. 1-(0.98)^18 = 0.305 This is probably making a LOT of assumptions and simplifications, so this is really nothing more than an interesting math exercise. :-)

*The 1-3% figure comes from https://learn.familytreedna.com/y-dna-testing/y-str/likelihood-non-...

Tamás Flinn Caldwell-Gilbert as I see it, the task must focus on which side this anomaly arose, in order to establish the right Y-DNA for Robert Jackson. This can only be done by gathering reference material of other earlier offsprings, and if we now have displayed an anomaly regarding his type of Y-DNA, it should not be displayed at all, or displayed with both, or with a questionmark until proven. I have thought about this problem earlier and what to do with it, because if one illegitimate child can determine what shall be presented as fact, this will create a lot of more conflicts in the tree DNA.

There is also other problems, how far back in generations do we need to go, and what if there is only one documented male line of decendant from for example, 1600c until today?

I have been going through your line, generation by generation and I cannot find anything wrong with it.

For the earlier generations, leading up to the migration to Ohio from NJ, History of the Jackson family of Hempstead, Long Island, N.Y., Ohio and Indiana does a very good job of tracking each generations and has supporting evidence such as wills, for each step until Maj. Benjamin W. Jackson. Also, books such as Genealogical and Biographical Sketches of the New Jersey Branch of the Harris Family, in the United States expand a few more generations in Ohio, and we can support their connections with Benjamin Jackson's will, in which he names his son, Ziba. https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8801/images/005430...

Ziba's biography in History of Knox County, Ohio, Biographical sketches (pg. 704) attests that he a child Shalon (Chalon), and from Chalon the line is well documented to your father.

In short, as far as documentation is concerned, I see no issue with your line going back to Robert Jackson.

I also looked at Darrell Jackson’s ancestry, and his line is much sketchier. His Jacksons were from Tennessee and the problem occurs in the jump between his ancestor, David Jackson of Campbell County, TN (see https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Jackson-30732) and William Jackson, who may have moved from Morris County, NJ to Carter Co. TN. This William Jackson of Morris Co, NJ is the son of General Joseph Jackson, your ancestor. There seems to be a bunch of research here which you can find on Wikitree https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Jackson-22052 and https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Study_of_various_William_Jackso...
The important section: “Darrell Jackson, a descendant of this William Jackson has participated in the Jackson DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA. His DNA is a 99.9 percent match to a well documented, known descendant of Gen. Joseph Jackson. So this is further verification that William who died in Carter County is indeed Gen. Joseph Jackson's son.”
A couple things stand out to me here. First of all, they say his DNA is a 99.9% match, but they do not really go into detail on what that means. Does it mean that a DNA service matched them as cousins, or do they share the same Y-DNA? It is not clear from this statement, and the difference is a very important one. What is clear, is that the documentation for this connection is simply not there. There are lots of references to Jacksons in NJ, NC and TN which they are trying to piece together. Unfortunately, Darrell Jackson is not longer with us, but if we want to pursue this further, I think that the next step would be to try and find which “known descendant of Gen. Joseph Jackson” did Darrell Jackson match with, and more specifically, exactly what was the nature of this match.

Tamás Flinn Caldwell-Gilbert thank you. This is what I have been coming up with and I asked but have not gotten any response on that yet. There are people on Wikiree that have "highjacked" Robert Jackson. At least that is how I feel

And the funny thing is they are all administrators of the https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/jackson/activity-feed Jackson Group on FTDNA. Janie said that Darrall had his DNA tested through FTDNA but I can't seem to find it. I asked who was the control subject to determine Robert's DNA and have received no response.

It is interesting because several of the people listed as managers for this Darrell Jackson are also co administrators of the Jackson group. What are the odds of that? I have asked several times who is the " well known descendant" and have gotten no answer. Have asked Janie for correct gedmatch information as the one posted for her profile does not exist and I cannot find Darrell on FTDNA even though Janie said that he was tested there. There are many things that do not add up. I want to contact someone at DAR and see if they can find out if any apps have been filed with them or SAR. My gut says something is weird.

I agree. In the Hempstead Jacksons section on https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Jackson?iframe=yresults I count 13 different entries for paternal ancestor Robert Jackson (d. 1684-5) of Hempstead. Out on those, twelve have I-M223 as the Y-DNA haplogroup, with one claiming I-Y38787. 12:1 is a pretty overwhelming ratio. A next step might be to track down those 12 results and see through which branches they connect to Robert Jackson.

On that page they have my father listed under Jackson/Wilson (kit # 924790) which I asked who those people are and was told that they are arbitrarily made up names because someone in that "group" had someone in their tree with that name. I have heard this same excuse was given to at least one other person who asked the same question. This Darrell Jackson supposedly only tested at 67 markers (kit #7071) as opposed to 700 markers that were tested for my dad. Like comparing seeds to full grown apples. FTDNA says that tests of at least 111 markers are more reliable when testing for lineage. I'm not saying that he is not related just am not sure that he is directly related. He might descend from say the daughter of General Joseph Jackson. I think before this Janie person came along and said that Darrell Jackson left her "all his research" the DNA now put for Robert Jackson was not listed which is even more reason why I think their argument hinges on this Darrell Jackson person. Cause before they put that DNA for him this Janie person contacted me through Wikitree telling me that I was not related to Robert Jackson and that this Darrell Jackson person was. I told her according to mine and other's research I am. She said that the DNA did not match. I said well maybe that is because he is related through another way. I just do not understand why if it is legit than why is nothing panning out? Like why can't I confirm any of this? It is very frustrating.

Like I said I just want to "get it right". No matter what that ends up being . Even if there are two different Benjamins that got merged into one or some other ancestor. I just want to do justice for everyone whether they are my ancestors or someone elses. :)

Oops let me correct myself if he was related through a daughter of General Joseph Jackson he would be directly related just not YDNA directly related. :)

OMG my dad Jimmy Lynn Jackson 's Y haplogroup has changed again tonight to I-FT122816 and now he is the only one with that one. I said that it is rare I am seeing more and more that that is the case. I'm not sure what to make of it.

So now FamilytreeDNA has his Y Haplogroup as I-FT122816 which is a subclade of I-BY103184 which is a subclade of I-Z79 which is a subclade of I-M223.

Your father is a DNA match to several of my paternal cousins here, dear. I think we match on my mom's side but DNA trumps paper. PM me if you have some time to look them over.
Have a nice week-end :)

For Jimmy Lynn Jackson

Ok I discovered that by my father's yDNA his Jackson line is the Levi Jackson 1777 Family Line. I just need to figure out if I have the correct people after my Great Grandfather George Washington Jackson as there is no one in my family that is left that knows for sure. :( I know I match auDNA with several people on Ancestry for Levi Jackson.