Capt. Thomas Warren - Need a curator please and thank you. He appears to have been victim of bad merges.

Not the son of Robert Warren & Margaret de Burgie Not the son of The Honorable William Warren, Esquire & Catherine Warren Sewell

Nathan W. Murphy, AG, FASG, BLURRED LINES #1: Disproving the Claimed Kentish Parentage of Thomas' Warren of Surry County, Virginia in The American Genealogist (2021/2022) Vol 92.1:72-7

Thomas Warren (circa 1621-1670), a burgess in Surry County, Virginia, has been presumed since 1954 to be a son of William Warren, gentleman, of Ripple, Kent, by his wife, Catherine (Gookin), with a royal descent published in 1959, and which most recently appeared in 2018 in Gary Boyd Roberts's The Royal Descents of 900 Immigrants.' William Warren of Ripple indeed had a son Thomas, baptized there on 30 January 1624/5. In Virginia, Thomas stated his age as 40 years in a deposition of 3 May 1661, suggesting an approximate birth year of 1621.' It would fit chronologically for the Surry County planter to be the Thomas Warren whose headright Capt. Daniel Gookin claimed in Virginia in the 1640s. Daniel Gookin, from the gentry Gookin fam ily of Kent, was a first cousin of Catherine (Gookin) Warren, wife of William Warren of Ripple. If this solution were correct, Thomas Warren would be a first cousin once removed of Daniel Gookin. But this plausible identity for the Virginia planter is contradicted by evidence from primary sources in England,

The younger of two sons of William Warren of Ripple, Thomas Warren was in line to inherit half of some of his father's lands in Kent "in the nature and tenure of gavelkind," an ancient inheritance custom in Kent by which all sons inherited equal portions of certain types of property, Different response retained different specific customs of gavelkind, apparently derived from practices predating the Norman conquest, William Warren of Ripple, the father, died a lunatic, intestate, about 16367 On 7 May 1647, William's younger brother, John Warren, gentleman, of Gray's Inn, sued William's elder an only surviving son, Albert or Albertus Warren, in Chancery. In John's com plaint, it was recorded that William's only other son was Thomas Warren and further that "[a]bout a year and a half ago the said Thomas Warren d parted this life without any issue of his body lawfully begotten." 998

In 1658 Albert Warren brought a related lawsuit in which he stated that was the "brother and heir of Thomas Warren, late the other son and con of the said William Warren." While no burial or estate document has be found to corroborate the death of Thomas Warren of Ripple apparently late 1645 or early 1646, the possibility that Thomas's uncle John and brother Albert, in these two lawsuits, would have been either deliberately prevaricating or misinformed about the fate of their brother and nephew Thomas Warren cannot be entertained.

The Virginia burgess Thomas Warren possibly belongs elsewhere in same gentry Warren family of Ripple, Kent. The royal descent first published in 1959 and most recently in Roberts's Royal Descents of 900 Immigrants, b ever, would only remain valid for the immigrant if he could be proved to son of one of the brothers of his previously presumed father, William Warren of Ripple: the line in Roberts ascends through William's mother. William Warren of Ripple had two brothers: Thomas Warren, baptized 1603/4, whose fate and place of residence as an adult are unknown, and John Warren of Gray's Inn, baptized 1609/10, one of the litigants mentioned above, whose own estate was administered in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury in 1662,10 John would have been only eleven years old in 1621, the presumed year of the Virginia settler's birth based on his stated age in 1661. Thomas, the middle brother, would have been seventeen, a possible but unlikely age for paternity.. At this time, therefore, the ancestry of Thomas Warren of Surry County, Virginia, must be considered unknown.

Here’s the other Thomas Warren of Ripple