George Gordon, 3rd of Lesmoir - George Gordon's Parents

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1/2/2021 at 12:59 PM

George Gordon, 3rd of Lesmoir's parents were James Gordon, 2nd of Lesmoir and Margaret Ogilvy, so this additional generation should be listed between George and James Gordon (1st) of Lesmoir. James Gordon, 2nd of Lesmoir's father is James Gordon of Lesmoir.

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1/3/2021 at 2:43 AM

Shown ancestry of this George seems not contradicted with reputable Douglas Wimberley book about G. of Lesmoir.

1/10/2021 at 9:39 AM

I based my comment on the overview on the George Gordon, 3rd page in Geni, which is apparently based on the peerage.com.

1/10/2021 at 10:09 AM

The George Gordon who married Katharine Forbes was the 2nd laird of Lesmoir, so that looks like the problem.

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1/10/2021 at 2:50 PM

Anne Brannen

Yes, I look at book another time and think, you right about errors of numbering of Lesmoir Gordons in geni

Douglas Wimberley's book is online, Gordon of Lesmoir in page 93 http://archive.org/details/memorialsoffouro00wimb/page/92/mode/2up

Also see father of this George - James Gordon: James Gordon, 1st Laird of Lesmoir and "his brother" James Gordon, 1st Laird of Lesmoir, who is actually the same persons (with 1st and 2nd wife of same James Gordon)

So Gordon tree, as some other Scotish trees, is needed a big revision. But this is a hard and time-eating work... I began to edit and add Gordons (first, of Manar branch, with using BP and some books), but so many other work to do, so I don't know, when I'll continue, if I will.

1/12/2021 at 2:48 PM

I think the first thing to clean up is the overview for James Gordon, 1st Laird of Lesmoir - the James Gordon who was born c1460/70, married Ann/Margaret Stewart and whose parents were George Gordon and Isabel Innes. The correct Peerage reference should be http://www.thepeerage.com/p41320.htm#i413196

Are you all fine with me updating this obvious error?

When I have a moment I want to do a comparison with all of the current online resources including the House of Gordon and all the other sources referred to here https://www.patrickspeople.scot/our%20family/2326.htm

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1/12/2021 at 9:02 PM

The peerage site has some errors and uncompleted data (source of info about Gg, 1st Lesmoir is email by one user to another!). Ancestry of GG, 1st of lesmoir s different on peerage site (one Innes wife of GG ancestors in row) and patrickspeople site (two Innes wives in row). So to use preferably the writen sources is probably the best thing to do

1/13/2021 at 6:42 AM

Jane, the update you suggest makes sense to me. Of course, all available information should be considered.

1/15/2021 at 11:43 PM

Hi there I have updated the overview James Gordon, 1st Laird of Lesmoir. I think we should use the House of Gordon as our starting point. It contains a wealth of info about the Gordons of Lesmoir. It appears Geni have a double entry for James (as his brother). I will contact the managers of the other entry to ask for permission to merge.

2/25/2021 at 7:20 PM

Jane Johnson - I stumbled into this from another request and agree with you - with a caveat about Margaret Ogilvy of Findlater, lady of Gartlie

See the argument presented at https://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info/genealogy/TNGWebsite/getpe... suggesting she was misplaced in the Gordon book as the wrong generation of Ogilvys.

2/25/2021 at 8:18 PM

Patricia Ann Scoggin - see this discussion.

2/25/2021 at 8:22 PM

Does anyone know the parents of this Margaret?

Margaret Ogilvy

2/25/2021 at 10:11 PM

Thanks Erica. Very interesting. I'll try to dedicate some time in the next few days to explore all the options

2/26/2021 at 3:02 AM

Please check this site also, with lots of citations.

This Margaret is elusive.

http://venitap.com/Genealogy/WebCards/ps32/ps32_409.html

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