Johannes Bezuidenhout, UNLINKED - Finding his father

cf Margaretha Maria Bezuidenhout

Wynand Willemse Bezuidenhout

Which suggests this son - Johannes Bezuidenhout - that I'm guessing PG Erasmus was trying to get to yesterday.

On Francina Christina's doop https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRH9-1M2?i=5 all I can see is Margaretha Maria Nortje - can't read what's under or above - unless that says "getuigen families Bezuidenhout" but underneath nothing looks like Wynand, let alone Wynand Willemse?

Please, someone with better deciphering skills tell me who the second witness is.

Do we know for sure that it's not this Unknown Profile?

Witness Cornelis Bezuidenhout not Willem Bezuidenhout ?

cf Aletta Elizabeth Greber DN: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSQF-CS92-7?i=467&...

Cornelise Bezuidenhout above MM Nortje but underneath ???

I can't even see the word Bezuidenhout under the name ..something Nortje :-) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRH9-1M2?i=5

Ahhh - above. Yes that's Cornelis - of course!

and Margaretha Maria Nortje.. not something Nortje

This is what I could see on oldest son Wynand Willemse Bezuidenhout bap doc https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSV8-D9KK-5?cat=99...

Wynand Willemse bap Oct 1793

ouers
Johannis Betsyudenhout
Maria Christina Coetze

getuigers
Cornelis Betsyudenhout
Margreta Nortje
Roelof Coetze
Francina Cortje

Again, Cornelis B and Margareta Nortje

Witnesses his brother and mother perhaps not father and mother ?
Would fit in with name of son Willem .
However his name also as Cornelis and his brother Cornelis as well? Possible

Mean son Wynand Willemse .

So search for son Johannes of WW Bezuidenhout and MM Nortje.

If Wynand Willemse Bezuidenhout had died by 1793, then perhaps Johannes's brother Cornelis might have signed with his mother Maria Margeratha Nortje?

Ahh, I see you thought of that.

Johannes Bezuidenhout baptized 1768 on Familysearch , just have to find baptism record

RE :So search for son Johannes of WW Bezuidenhout and MM Nortje. This is him: Johannes Bezuidenhout

I think you might run into the problem that there are too many Johannes Bezuidenhouts

No parents on 1833 death notice / probate that names his heirs ? Or witnesses on Will or executors ?

Should merge the two sets of parents for him and his brother perhaps ?

If we could find the DN for Wynand Willemse Bezuidenhout we'd know for sure if he was dead when Wynand Willemse Bezuidenhout was baptised.

I can't afford to spend another day here, though... I have an AP English course to finish setting up :-)

RE; No parents on 1833 death notice / probate that names his heirs ? Or witnesses on Will or executors ? For the statement: The mark of + Maria Catherina Coertze

https://media.geni.com/p13/d4/56/cc/db/5344484680ed5add/mooc_8_48_2...
We the undersigned James Jeremiah Wright and Petrus Johannes Georg Batholomeus Harmse, both of Traka
do hereby make oath that we have valued the property mentioned above to the best of our skill and ability.
J:N: Wright, B: Harsen
Witnesses: J: Wright, David Vorie
Sworn before me at Beaufort this 22 of July 1833: J:J: Meintjes R:M, John Francis Goodwin, Ag:t

Will look today .

Just before I go

Logging that there is another Wynand Bez and M Nortje couple with a Cornelis son on geni:

Wynand Bezuidenhout

Unknown Profile

Cornelis Bezuidenhout

RE "Should merge the two sets of parents for him and his brother perhaps ?"

There is a parent conflict for one of them - so either an error or they are two different couples

For 3rd child: Margaretha Strydom Graaff Reinet Oct 1797 baptism says
Margaretha geb ? Oct 1796
Ouders
Johannes Besuydenhout
Maria Christina Coertze
Getuyge
Pieter Nortje
Cornelia Claase

Plus on myheritage diffrent wives and parents and d.o.b and date of death for different Wynand Bezuidenhouts all blended

Go work leave till later.