Really confused on my connection to the Bolling family

Started by Joseph Putnam on Friday, February 5, 2021
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2/5/2021 at 6:28 AM

My gedmatch is UJ934392. I am pretty well convinced that im a Descendant of John kennon Bolling. I would however liie a second opinion.

Why am I so convinced.
Pocahontas "Rebecca" (1595-1617) married John Rolfe who had one child...

Thomas Rolfe, (1615- ), married Jane Poythress. They had a daughter...

Jane Rolfe (1650-1676), married Col. Robert Bolling. They had a son...

Col. John Bolling (1675-1729), married Mary Kennon. They had a son...

Maj. John Bolling (1700-1757), married Elizabeth Blair. They had a daughter...

Elizabeth Bolling (1731-1776), married Benjamin Wright. They had a daughter...

Elizabeth Wright (1766- ), married Benjamin Camden, Sr.

https://www.heritech.com/soil/genealogy/camden/camden.htm9

Elizabeth Wright
1757–1800 is my 6th great-grandmother.

Paper trails seem to be hard to come by I think there was a court house fire.

There is also this that claim dna has proven Benjamin and my Elizabeth Bolling as red Bollings

books.google.com › ... › General
Pocahontas to Benjamin Bolling - Oakley Dean ... - Google Books

I also seem to match an share a common Native American Ancestor with some others that claim to ne Descendants.

Geni has me also being Descendants of oneJohn Rolfe other wives im not sure how true that is. I also seem to be a Descendant of Penelope Clark who some say was a Bolling. Then there is a Bryant connection some where. The only connections I can find is via the Anderson’s who according to some married Susannah who also married Dabney. Mr Deyo thinks the Anderson’s may be a false line but claims Susannah was probably pumanky. We still can't explain his an my small match. I also match another tribal member of the Patawomeck.

Any insight would be helpful.

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2/5/2021 at 6:34 AM

Your Gedmatch number needs to be corrected.

2/5/2021 at 6:36 AM

Thank you UJ9343921 should work. I think the period at the end is what was wrong.

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2/5/2021 at 6:46 AM

John Samuel Kennon (@)
1625–1654
Birth 1625 • Dumfries, Dumfries-shire, Scotland
Death 1654 • Conjurers Neck, Henrico, Virginia, USA married Elizabeth Blair Bolling.
Elizabeth Blair Bolling
1625–1705
Birth 1625 • Henrico County, Virginia Colony
Death 1705 • Henrico County, Virginia Colony. I know that is one way I am related. I also have unproven possibilities. Your number has a 1 on the end . This is how we match Chr B37 Start Pos'n B37 End Pos'n Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
5 11,175,485 14,076,584 3.6 338
6 44,211,867 47,121,186 4.4 438
8 28,621,169 31,148,512 3.8 357
13 96,160,762 98,757,238 3.2 279
14 100,964,549 102,095,836 4.4 286
21 41,403,092 42,502,830 3.8 257

Largest segment = 4.4 cM

Private User
2/5/2021 at 6:48 AM

And of course I have several Bryan/ Bryant lines. Maybe someone else can be better help.

2/5/2021 at 6:50 AM

Could I see your gedmatch number? To see if the painting suggests we share a Native American Ancestor.

2/5/2021 at 6:52 AM

We also seem to match up on my father's side my Native lines or supposed Native lines are on my mother's side.

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2/5/2021 at 7:09 AM

Sending you an im on FB.

2/5/2021 at 7:14 AM

It also looks like on ch 6 that we share NA DNA.

Private User
2/5/2021 at 7:21 AM

Will I do have several branches with possible native lines.

2/5/2021 at 7:31 AM

I only have a few. One that links me to the Cheraw. The one im sure about to Pocahontas. The others are more or less debated. Im trying to get my Elizabeth Bolling put as a child of John kennon Bolling but i was told that book isn't proof enough.

2/5/2021 at 7:52 AM

Whos your Cheraw ancestor. Here is mine. They think she was Cheraw because her Descendants at lest some where recorded as being Cheraw FNU Lawne Creek Tithable of Lawne Cr. Parish

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2/5/2021 at 9:10 AM

I noticed you have a Blair in your tree. According to Wikipedia John Bolling son John Bolling Jr married a Blair. John Bolling Jr. (1700–1757) married Elizabeth Lewis in 1720. Later he married Elizabeth Blair (daughter of Archibald Blair and the niece of James Blair, the first president of the College of William & Mary, whose second husband was Richard Bland) on August 1, 1728 and had at least nine children, including John Bolling III, who married Mary Jefferson (the sister of United States President Thomas Jefferson.[4] ). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bolling

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2/5/2021 at 9:17 AM

Elizabeth Bolling (b. 1709), married William Gay of Scotland and had three children.[4] was one of his childern.

2/5/2021 at 9:29 AM

Major John Kennon Bolling, II is the brother of Elizabeth Gay my Elizabeth is one of his daughters according to the the things ive found.

Private User
2/5/2021 at 9:54 AM

Sounds like you found it.

2/5/2021 at 10:02 AM

That is at least what I think. Thank you for your help.

Private User
2/5/2021 at 11:20 AM

Elizabeth Wright
have got the same dates as
Elizabeth Thornbury

If they are one and the same, then this daughter
Elizabeth Camden

would be the daughter of
John Thornbury

But in his about me, he had another daughter born the same year...
Mary Thornbury b: 4 NOV 1757 in St. Paul's Parish, Stafford County, Virginia
not set up in the tree.

Something is a lot off.

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2/5/2021 at 11:26 AM

John Thornbury married Elizabeth, She is believed to be the daughter of William Bolling.

Noticed that they have set up them both as wifes to him, the other Elisabet daughter of John Bolling and the Elisabet daughter of William.

It's likely that your Elisabet has been hijacked...

2/5/2021 at 11:27 AM

Elizabeth Thornbury Has very uncertain parents and dates. Here is how she shows currently at Mike Marshall’s database:

https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I0629...

2/5/2021 at 11:30 AM

No daughter Elizabeth Thornbury listed in John Thornbury’s 1795 will.

https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I0508...

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2/5/2021 at 11:34 AM

Simple solution
Elizabeth Thornbury
set her loose from her husband Thornbury, move over all the children to the other wife.
Set her as married to an unknown N.N. Wright, and make him the father to your Elisabeth Camden, and set the released Elisabeth Thornbury as the mother, change her name according to the family.

2/5/2021 at 11:36 AM

Write now im trying to merge my Camden line. Looks like some one wrote on the other Profile that the Elizabeth in question is not a daughter of John Bolling. However there is the information above. In my first post.

2/5/2021 at 11:39 AM

I just finished merging your Elizabeth Camden of unknown parents to the master profile.

Elizabeth Wright

2/5/2021 at 11:45 AM

Thank you.

2/7/2021 at 10:50 AM

LOL, thank you, just a little nudge

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