Elisabeth Lievens van der Weele - 2x Elisabeth van der Weele

Started by Hubert de Vos on Thursday, February 11, 2021
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2/11/2021 at 1:35 PM

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Lijsbeth Lievens den Dag/van der Weele was getrouwd met 1) Bartholomeus Andriesz Verburg, 2) Francois Janse Ellewits en 3) Pieter Claesse Koole
De Elisabeth/Lijsbeth getrouwd met Francois kan niet getrouwd geweest zijn met Bartholomeus en/of Pieter want deze mannen overlappen in jaren. (Ik heb geprobeert terug te gaan in het logboek om te zien waar het fout gegaan is maar dit is te ver terug om duidelijkheid te krijgen.)

Om deze reden heb ik een nieuwe Adriana Lievense van der Weel aangemaakt die getrouwd is met Bartholomeus en Pieter. Ik ben persoonlijk slechts bekend met de Elisabeth getrouwd met Francois, dus ik het haar gegevens gelaten zoals ze waren. (I heb zelf geen gegevens voor haar ouders.)
Als anderen gegevens hebben voor haar ouders, enz., voel je dan vrij om dit aan te vullen.
Ik verzoek echter om deze twee profielen niet opnieuw samen te voegen.

Dit was alleen de eerste stap. Hopelijk krijgen we in de komende tijd de twee profielen netjes op orde.

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Lijsbeth Lievens den Dag/van der Weele was married to 1) Bartholomeus Andriesz Verburg, 2) Francois Janse Ellewits and 3) Pieter Claesse Koole
The Elisabeth/Lijsbeth married to Francois can not have been married to Bartholomeus and/or Pieter because these men overlap in years. I have tried to look back in the revision to see where this went wrong but it is too far back to really get an inside.
For this reason I have created a new Adriana Lievense van der Weel who is now married to Bartholomeus and/or Pieter. I'm personally only familiar with the Elisabeth married to Francois so I have left her details. I personally don't have details for her parents.
If you have details for her parents etc, then feel free to set this up correctly, but I felt that you should set up relationships that I didn't know if they were correct or not.
At least, please don't merge the two profiles together.

This was just a first important step. Hopefully over time we will get the profiles properly sorten.

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2/11/2021 at 1:47 PM

I have made both Elisabeth profiles MP. Two MPs cannot be merged together. When more information and sources are available, curator notes can be enhanced.

2/15/2021 at 11:37 AM

I have done some more research and I found out that Lijsbeth Lievens den Dag/van der Weele jonger sister Adriana was married to Bartholomeus and Pieter. So I have merged the newly created profile with Adriana Lievense van der Weel.

Not a source but genealogy that has it correct: https://gw.geneanet.org/jsch?lang=en&pz=johan&nz=schippers&...
A strong confirmation for me was the memberlist for NH Wissenkerke 1742 where Adriaantie van der Weel is written just below Pieter Kolen (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89QV-QWBC?i=15&amp...). Bartolomeus Verburght is a baptism witness for a cousin of Adriana at the time that they may have been married; so this at least confirms that he has relationships to this family (circumstanstial).
Hopefully this has resolved the connundrum.

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