haZadik haNistar Rabbi Benjamin Menachem (Benasz) Wartski,(HaCohen) ztk"l - Note to Future Researchers

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he is my great grandfather,
My grandfather's father, and I'm his descendant son after son

Hi Haim,
Wondering what became of your intention to do the DNA sampling. Did you obtain your y-group? I would be grateful to include your Wartski HaCohen line in the Memorial Index of Rabbinical Signatures (https://www.xyvy.info/service/yDNARabbinical.htm) and also the Index of Kohenite Branches (https://www.academia.edu/110570569/).
Best Regards,
Adam

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Hi Adam,

Naftali Wakstein believes that I am a son after a son of Rabbi Yitzchak Katz, who is the son-in-law of the Maharal from Prague

In order to verify the information for sure, I asked him to compare my DNA test to a man who is definitely his son after son....

We talked the other day and he told me that all the men who claimed to be his descendants as son after son and to the test, turned out that some of them were wrong and some of them lied that they were his descendants.. So as of now, unfortunately I don't have a definitive answer on the subject

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If you know a male who is a son after a son of Rabbi Yitzchak Katz - the son-in-law of the Maharal from Prague, and he is willing to pass the test on to Naftali Wakstein, I would be very happy, and I would like to thank that person from the bottom of my heart

Hi Haim.

I appreciate the update on the situation. What you are describing is important for other researchers to know and understand. It would be a good thing if somehow what you have discovered can be made available for other researchers, without stigmatizing anyone. Please consider ways in which this might be doable. Can you post a note on the appropriate GENI profiles in a way that doesn't mention specific living persons but nevertheless indicates what part of the GENI tree appears to be the result of misinformation? It is difficult for me to think of a way of achieving this purpose without greater information. If you want to contact me privately via GENI or email (I have sent my email via private message), that would be fine.

Cordially,
Adam

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I went through the names currently appearing in Geni between my great-grandfather (3), Rabbi Zvi hersz Wartski Hachoen up to Rabbi Yitzchak Katz - the son-in-law of the Maharal from Prague... It seems to me that even if Naftali Wakstein is right, 1-2 generations are missing, but I will be It is wiser when we manage to find a male who is certainly his descendant son after son

Naftali checks anyone who claims to be a descendant, unfortunately, so far he has not found a person who can prove with certainty that he is one.

There is also another "complication", because through my great-grandfather's mother Rifka Wartski (nee Krol), I am surely a descendant of the son of the Maharal from Prague, so it is possible that my test will be a little difficult to chek on the subject

By the way, I sent you an email

Hi Private User,

Just an FYI, there's a number of different Wartski families that all originate in Kalisz, and that are all Cohanim. We know from DNA testing and from their first names that they are highly likely to be related, but the actual connections are likely in the 1700s.

Many of those trees have living male line descendants that have basic DNA tests.

Some example trees that don't connect directly to Haim:

Yitzhak Wartzki (Dan Wartski is a descendant, and I believe he has had DNA testing)

Aron Wartski (several descendants on MyHeritage)

I'm not a direct descendant of any of those lines as far as I know, but my families married into several of those trees on multiple occasions, and all Wartskis come up as strong DNA matches with me.

Private User I believe you are referring to autosomal DNA testing and matching. I do not believe it will be possible to establish a clear genealogy using autosomal DNA, for reasons such as what Haim mentioned earlier (although autosomal could become useful later in the investigation). At the moment FTDNA Family Finder appears to be frozen so I cannot do any further study along the lines you propose until the situation there is normalized.

Hi Private User I'm operating under the assumption that somebody who has done autosomal testing may be open to also doing a Big Y. :)

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Thanks to
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I now have the y-group and the subgroup I belong to (son after son) and will upload it to my profile after I verify with Adam that I understood correctly the things he wrote to me....
I don't understand much about DNA tests and I don't want to make a mistake and mislead other people

About a year and a half ago I wrote to
Dan Wartski
He did not reply to me, and I think he is not active in Geni
regarding
Yitzhak Wartzki
I don't have any information
regarding
Aron Wartski
The names on his profile are familiar to me, but the interesting thing is that some of them are actually familiar to me from my great-grandmother's family
Rebbetzin Malka Rywka Wartski/Mayrantz