Katherine (Morris) Pettus - Pettus cleanup - come help

Looks like the tree in Virginia has become confused.

Post questions and corrections And sources here. Tag Geni profiles.

I’m started with https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Morris-6446 and adjusting Katherine Gaines accordingly.

Private User Has questions about Col. Thomas Pettus

I think some children overlap with Col. Thomas Pettus but Thomas did not have a Hubert middle name or a wife Rebecca.

It goes even further than that. I have found conflicting information.
It appears There are two Thomas Pettus. They were not brothers however.
One of these two does not belong.

Katherine Gaines Married Thomas Petty, of Farnham Parish who was not a known Pettus.

This article may help. But I know Thomas Pettit who married Katherine Morris is controversial. Other relationships in the article are good.

*“Early Virginia Pettuses” by Mrs. Stacey. Page 841. [https://books.google.com/books?id=55I38FXWyPgC&lpg=PA902&ot... GoogleBooks]

Hubert Patey Who had a son Thomas Petty was not a Pettus.

Private User - that was a major point of confusion.

Thomas Petty Who had a son Christopher Petty, Sr. was not a Pettus. Perhaps he was related to Hubert.

Thomas Pettit who married Katherine Morris is probably not a Pettus. There are Pettit's living in England about that time also, where he might descended from.So probably different lines.
And there are two Thomas Pettus, it is said an uncle and his nephew.

The nephew has been associated with the man who married Katherine Morris, which may be apocryphal, and should be checked for more modern interpretations,

Supposed nephew = Thomas Petty, of Farnham Parish

Thanks, Private User agree, and done. Did Mrs Stacy make up the story? :).

https://books.google.com/books?id=55I38FXWyPgC&lpg=PA902&ot...

Still cleaning up, D’s notes in profile are quite helpful.

I made a response to this last night but apparently it did not go through. I could easily see how the names Pettus and Petty would have become confused through the wormhole of genealogy. I also found two other spellings for the name Pettus in England.

I came across that article by Mrs. Stacy and thought the same thing Erica.

Apparently this is someone’s attempt to clear up the controversy although to me it confuses it a little bit more.

https://genealogyadventures.net/2017/10/23/playing-genealogical-hid...

Woops wrong link already shared that with Erica in a previous email.

Read here, especially the comments.

https://pettusheritage.wordpress.com/2016/11/07/misinformation-on-t...

http://www.mikesclark.com/genealogy/pettus/pettus.html

And especially this:

pettusheritage says:
July 18, 2019 at 9:24 pm
This information will come as a shock to all readers who trace their lineages back to Thomas Pettus and his wife Elizabeth (Freeman) Durrent, but that line of descent ended in 1700 with the death of their only grandchild Elizabeth who never married. The problem now is to identify her heir, the Stephen Pettus who sold Elizabeth’s plantations to James Bray, Jr., in 1700. He was not an uncle or her brother. There are two possibilities: (1) he was the son, baptized in 1629, of John Pettus of London, Eng., and his wife Mary Pollard, or, as claimed by Bill Deyo, historian of the Patawomeck tribe of Virginia, the son of Thomas Pettus by his wife Ka-Okee, daughter of Pocahontas and Kocoum. Stay tuned. I am now working on a third volume to supplement my previous two.

I think Thomas Pettit married to Katherine has nothing to do with the Pettus line.
Nephew and ucle are two other Thomas Pettus.There is some wrong information in Mrs Stacy story like that Dorothy Pettit was married to Thomas Fuget. This is wrong. She was married to James Fuget/Fugat/Fuckett. So I think also other informations from her migjt not be correct.
Did she find some records? That would be nice to know.

Mike Clark is also current and is claiming a possible surviving descent line from controversial Stephen through

John Pettus (c.1662-after 1704), who is probably the son of Stephen Pettus, was born about 1662 in Blisland Parish in New Kent County, Virginia. Even less is known about him than his father, but he is known to have been a member of the vestry (a governing body) for the Blisland Parish in 1703 or 1704 when he signed a letter from the vestry to Governor Nicholson of the Virginia Colony. He probably married and had a son named John who follows.
(Pettus, 2011 - v. I, p. 270-271, no. 104)

Here’s Mrs. Stacy on the children of Col. Thomas Pettus

https://www.geni.com/images/missing_image.png

What do other sources have on the daughters and son John she lists? I’d like to lock this down.

An online query by a tribal historian regarding the identity of Christian Pettus's father led this source to do some last-minute research. That research led to the discovery of new evidence that Christian was the daughter of the immigrant Thomas and Ka-Okee, daughter of Pocahontas.

Because the above-mentioned Stephen's male line of descent carries the same Y-DNA as that of Thomas's other known male descendants from Ka-Okee, that means that Stephen was descended from Ka-Okee and not from Mourning. Most likely, Stephen II was the son of Stephen I and Stephen I was the son of Thomas I and Ka-Okee. This explains why Stephen II got that name.

Thomas Pettus, immigrant, did marry Elizabeth Durrent, widow of Richard Durrent sometime before 1643. They had a son Thomas Pettus II who was a minor when his father died c1661. Thomas II was the father of Elizabeth Pettus , who was also left an orphan when Thomas died abroad in 1687. Elizabeth died unmarried and still a minor sometime before 1700.

The preceding statements are confirmed by extant records.

The new theory, which is based upon good evidence, both oral and written, has Thomas Pettus, immigrant, marrying Ka-Okee, daughter of Pocahontas and Kocoum, as his first wife about 1631. Thus, Elizabeth Durrent was Thomas's second wife. Also, Thomas and Ka-Okee were the parents of Christian Pettus of Stafford County, Virginia. Thomas and Ka-Okee also had other children, including Stephen Pettus I, who settled in New Kent County, Virginia. I now believe that he was the father of Stephen Pettus II, who was a grantor in the sale of the Pettus estates in 1700.

http://www.southern-style.com/Pettus.htm

I’m going to stir up some more trouble along this branch. This person brought us into the Pettus tree.

Christian Waddington

According to ancestry she is the daughter of Ka-Okee and our controversial Thomas Pettus. I doubt that for two reasons. Number one not one iota of Native American DNA appeared on my test, as I had hoped. The second one is I can’t find her being associated with Thomas Flood anywhere else other than Geni.

She is associated with John Waddington and a Francis Waddington.

Then there is this.

https://www.indianreservations.net/2016/08/christian-pettus-martin-...

Erica when you operate her from Thomas Flood, i know you shall.
Im ready to work on his profile from there.

separate not operate

Private User I had worked extensively on Christian Waddington with various genealogists several years ago. Let me dig her up - she was separated from Pettus. I don’t recall if she was also a Flood, we do have her figured out with Martins, though.

Linda, with all due respect to Bill Deyo, on Christian, I think we’re pretty certain she was not a Pettus or of any known native background. I do understand that Robert’s DNA test may not be significant one way or another, she was too long ago for atDNA to be really helpful.

https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/pettus/939/

It looks like William Pettus has continued his research and may have new findings soonish or already. As I recall last time I looked at this, he has corresponded with Bill Deyo and was sympathetic to the possible Ka Oke marriage. However, I have the impression he’s still sorting out the Stephen Pettuses. In other words, it looks like there was a Stephen son of Col. Thomas; but there was a born 1629 Stephen as well, who would be from the English family.

I’ve separated out some of the children attributed to Col. Thomas Pettus and put them on their own “related” tree until we can sort them better.

NN Pettus?

Here’s Captain Thomas Flood, Sr. Apparently we don’t know his wife’s name, but she wasn’t Christian Waddington except by error on Geni, now fixed.

Have we finished “petty” spring cleanIng ? :)

Erica, :) LOL!!

Afraid not. Ive found sources saying Johns 2nd wife Fortune was the wife of Thomas.
Heres one.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Encyclopedia_of_Virginia_Biogra...

Thomas Floods father, not him.

Fortune Mills