Maria Elizabeth (Fischbach) BRUMBACH - Maria Els (Elisabeth) Fischbach b. 1687

Started by Barbara Price, A509195 on Sunday, May 16, 2021
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5/16/2021 at 2:28 PM

The Maria Els (Elisabeth) in this Profile has the incorrect birthdate of April, 1697. The birthdate of Maria Els (Elisabeth) Fischbach is 1687, she is the elder sister, not the younger sister. She was born in Trupbach, but she was baptised at the Nikolai Church in Siegen.

Maria Elisabeth (Fischbach) Brombach/Brumback died prior to 28 Jul 1746 at Germantown, Prince William County, Virginina (present day Fauquier County, Virginia. We know this because a deed dated 28 Jul 1746 for land at Germantown that belonged to Melchior Brombach/Brumback and was left to the children of Melchior and Maria Elisabeth (Fischbach) Brumback:

1. Elizabeth Brumback wife of Stephen Hatzenbiller/Hotsinpiller
2. Agnes Brumback, wife of Johann Henrich/Henry Otterbach/Utterbach (b. 1698), lived on Brumback land at Germantown
3. Catherine Brumback, wife of Christopher Windle
4. Maria Gertrud Brumbach, wife of John Jacob Neuschwanger/Niswanger

Source: Holtzclaw, Dr. B. C., Germanna Record No. 5: Ancestry and Descendants of the Nassau-Siegen Immigrants to Virginia 1714-1750, (Culpeper, Virginia, The Memorial Foundation of the Germanna Colonies in Virginia, Inc., 1964) 54,55.

Barbara Price, Trustee, Genealogist
The Germanna Foundation

5/16/2021 at 2:45 PM

Profile updated,

5/16/2021 at 2:49 PM

Barbara Price, A509195

Could I trouble you to take a look at Nancy McElwain

I have not been able to find evidence for origins. She’s also close enough (6th great grandmother, supposedly) that DNA test evidence may be helpful, but I dont know of anything revealing.

5/16/2021 at 4:54 PM

I don't see any daughters for Hans Jacob Richter/Rector and Anna Els (Elisabeth) Fischbach, only sons:
1. Johannes/John Richter/Rector b 1 Dec 1711 in Trupbach, Germany
2. Harman Rector b ca 1715-20 at Germanna or Germantown, depending on date
3. Henry Rector b ca 1715-1720 at Germanna or Germantown, depending on date
4. Jacob Rector b ca 1720-1725 at Germantown

Also, the birthdate of 1735 in Pennsylvania isn't valid for a child of Hans Jacob Richter/Rector and Anna Elisabeth Fischbach as they never lived in Pennsylvania. They immigrated to Virginia with Anna Elisabeth's parents and Hans Jacob was included in the Permission to Immigrate request that his father in law, Philip Fischbach, filed in Siegen on 31 Jul 1713.

She may be a daughter of Johannes Richter/Rector that immigrated to America in 1734 on board the ship "Hope," landing in Philadelphia on 23 Sep 1734. He settled at Germantown and probably married Mary Spilman, the daughter of 1714 Immigrants, Johannes/John Spielmann/Spilman and Maria Els (Elisabeth) (b. 1696) Fischbach. I need to look at this one further! I'll check a couple of other books that I have when I return home tomorrow.

Barbara Price, Trustee/Genealogist
The Germanna Foundation

5/16/2021 at 4:55 PM

Many thanks!

5/16/2021 at 5:07 PM

From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Spielman-77

Mary's first husband, John Melchior Fiter (or Finster or Finter), died in 1735 with no known issue. Her second husband, John Rector, was born in 1707 in Siegen, Germany and had arrived in Philidelphia aboard the ship "Hope" in September of 1734; he was 26 years old. John died in 1742. He and Mary had two children, John and Nathaniel.[2]

Later in 1742, Mary was wed for the third time. Her new husband was Timothy Redding II. Together they had 5 children, including Sarah Redding and William Redding.[3]

In Germanna Record No. 5, pg 454, in the Speillmann-Spilman Family section, B.C. Holtzclaw states:

"Germanna Record No. 4 (pp. 78-89) gives the evidence that Mary Spilman m. (1) John Melchior Fiter, who d. 1735; (2) John Rector (1707-1742); and (3) Timothy Redding (d. 1760); and that Mary Redding, too, d. in 1760. The descendants of Mary's sons by her marriage to John Rector, namely, John and Nathaniel Rector are also given in that volume. "

5/17/2021 at 5:15 PM

I've looked everywhere for any indication of Nancy (Rector) McElwaine and I can't find her!

According to Germanna Record No. 4, the children of Mary Spilman and John Rector (1707-1742) are two sons that you noted:

1. John Rector b 1738-1740 at Germantown
2. Nathaniel Rector b 1740-42 at Germantown

John Rector (1738-1740) married twice, first to Rebecca MNUand Mary MNU. These are the children of John Rector:

1. Elizabeth Rector m. 1795 Elijah Edwards
2. Elias Rector b 1775/6 m. 1799 Milly Edwards
3. Benjamin Rector b 1779/80 m. Susannah
4. John Rector b 1782/3 m. Ann Howard
5. Burwell Rector b 1781/2 m. 1801 Ginny Ellis
6. George Rector b 1785/6, probably died young
7. Braxton Rector b 1785/6 m. 1806 Jane Oliver
8. Sarah Rector d unmarried 1826
9. Susannah Rector, unmarried in 1826

Nathaniel Rector b 1740-42, married Annie MNU and their children are:

1. Lewis Rector b ca 1765
2. Daniel Rector b 1770/71 m. Betsy MNU
3. Hannah Rector m 1793 John Motley
4. Joel Rector b 1774/5 m. 1795 Sally Holtzclaw
5. Jesse Rector b 1776/7
6. Molly Rector m 1795 Moses Jeffries
7. Aylett Rector b 1782/3

I will keep looking!

Barb Price

5/17/2021 at 5:58 PM

You and everyone else who has looked can’t find her. Was she a widow Rector?

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