Pietro Cesare Alberto - The profile portrait cannot be Pietro Cesare

Started by Andrea Matthews on Friday, June 4, 2021
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6/4/2021 at 6:23 AM

The image on the profile page cannot be Pietro Cesare Alberti; he died in his 40s, in New Amsterdam, and would have had no access to such a portrait artist (nor the money to commission such a portrait).

I believe the portrait is of the much older Cesar Cremonini (1550-1631), a philosopher who lived and died in Italy: http://www.libros-books-amazonia.com/2016/12/biografia-de-cesare-cr... His name can be partly seen in the caption at the bottom of the painting.

The image is beginning to be attached to numerous sketches for Alberti around the web, and I think it's highly misleading.

Andrea Matthews

6/5/2021 at 8:22 AM

Andrea: Is there a profile for Cesar Cremonini on Geni that the image can be "moved to"?

Any suggestions for a different profile image for Pietro? (which could then be 'locked' in so the other one doesn't keep getting added back)

6/6/2021 at 2:43 AM

I don’t know about a profile for Cesar Cremonini - it took me quite a while just to figure out the actual subject of the portrait. As to a replacement profile photo - perhaps the commemorative stone at Battery Park in NYC - the date is probably not quite right on it (June 2 for his arrival in New Amsterdam) but it’s close enough. I think it may already be attached to the profile?

6/6/2021 at 2:44 AM

Oh, and that other portrait - he’s not Pietro Cesare either. I’m just not sure yet which Alberti he is - perhaps Leon Battista Alberti the architect/writer? Will try to identify.

6/6/2021 at 3:03 AM

I added a photo of the plaque to the media folder - not sure how to replace the existing image. I misspoke - the one that appears now is not Leon Battista either - probably an earlier Alberti, wearing very nice armor. Perhaps from the Crusades era. If/when I identify him, will report back!

6/13/2021 at 1:29 PM

I have never seen a representation of Pietro or his wife in all the years ive been doing this. And, as to the ones being used are laughable to say the least. Many people assume way to much with no evidemce. Oh well it hsppens but.its
nice to have those who are vigilant to correct when yheycan. Dave Dieter

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6/18/2021 at 10:49 AM

I changed pic.

6/19/2021 at 12:17 PM

Thanks!

6/28/2021 at 11:44 AM

The other portrait (a black & white line drawing or etching, 3/4 view of man in armor, with beard and aquiline nose) widely attached to Pietro Cesare Alberti is that of the explorer Giovanni da Verrazzano! Found it at britannica.com.

6/28/2021 at 12:08 PM

Unfortunately, both images are all over trees on MyHeritage, and I can’t message the owners without upgrading my account. This will probably continue to be a problem for a while. Thanks for your help here at least!

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