John James Lee, Sr. - Parents?

John Lee, of Goochland County was not the son of Thomas Lee, of Lancaster County & Ann Lee

According to research posted on https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/G9ZX-MG9

His Will seems to indicate sisters.

Rev Deacon Laura J Kelson - your document

https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000121851241833

Mentions “ Will post original copy if needed”

Can you do so?

The image is fine.

In the Name of God amen, I John Lee of the County of Goochland being in a low state of health …

Wow, nice work.

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John James Lee, Sr - or just John Lee, Sr - was this ancestors name -
tampering of name to John Lee of Goochland also causes confusion and compromises to user and program search matching and not an alternate.name as John Lee of Goochland has never been a reference to him historically.

(PLEASE USE CORRECT BIRTH DATE AND ANCESTOR NAME TO SECURE CORRECT DOCUMENT AND TREE MATCHES - changing dates compromises the profile and matches to be fair to the descendants of this ancestor)

Someone is/has been adding inaccurate information to this line. Please be more careful and caring about our ancestors. Thank you.

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Specifically, the “display name” (not the birth name or surname fields) is an identification based on what he called himself in his Will, which is an attached source, as well as summarized in the “about.”

Members on Geni use toponyms like this to distinguish and disambiguate profiles who are easily confused - as the John Lee surely is. Members also have an option to “not” see display names in their account settings.

Geni matching algorithms, at this point, don’t use display name at all; the matches are on name fields, dates, and relationships.

If additional view settings are needed, we can create Geni enhancement requests.

I’m also going to clean up the biography so it’s formatted more like I do master profiles.

Also removing this comment.

“Statements below are unverified and have no resource to explain why the disconnection from parents Thomas and Ann as there is no reasoning as to why this is being done and incorrect data imposed.”

Again, we use discussion for “disputed origins.” Hopefully can we can summarize the results in the profile - but this discussion was “specifically” started that purpose.

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I’m also going to copy out to this discussion the notes from other websites, and add the references in a reference list.

Correct Birth Date is 1705 - it is not an alternate

When John James Lee Sr. was born in 1705, in Middlesex, Virginia, British Colonial America, his father, Thomas Lee, was 26 and his mother, Elizabeth Keene, was 4. He had at least 3 sons and 2 daughters with Lucinda Braxton. He died on 10 October 1770, in St. Jame's Parish, Goochland, Virginia, British Colonial America, at the age of 65.
John James Lee Sr. (1705–1770) • FamilySearch
ancestors.familysearch.org/en/G9ZX-MG9/john-lee-sr.-1705-1770
https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/G9ZX-MG9/john-lee-1705-1770

https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/846212-abst...
[Abstracts of Virginia families : vol. 1]
Statement of Responsibility:
compiled by Delores Crumrine Rutherford
Authors:
Rutherford, Dolores Crumrine (Main Author)
Format:
Manuscript/Typescript Photocopy on Film
Language:
English
Publication:
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1990
Physical:
on 1 microfilm reel : ill. ; 35 mm.
References:
(Continued By) Abstracts of Virginia families : volume II / Rutherford, Dolores Crumrine

John James Lee Sr.
BIRTH 1705
Charles City County, Virginia, USA
DEATH 10 Oct 1770 (aged 64–65)
Goochland County, Virginia, USA
BURIAL Burial Details Unknown
MEMORIAL ID 141513688 · View Source
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141513688/john-james-lee

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lee-3391
John James Lee Sr.
Born about 11 Oct 1705 in Charles City County, Virginia
Husband of Lucy Seaton (Braxton) Lee — married 1729 in Goochland County, Virginiamap
DESCENDANTS descendants
Father of Helena Eleanor (Lee) Jackson, Stephen Lee, John Lee, Benjamin Lee Jr, John James Lee Jr. and Deborah Lucy (Lee) Hodges
Died 10 Oct 1770

Biography
John James Lee was born on 11 Oct 1705 in Charles City County, Virginia.[1][2]

He was married about 1729 in Goochland County, Virginia to Lucy Seaton Braxton.[3] They were the parents of the following children:

John James Lee Jr., born about 1729, died 19 Jun 1779; married Elizabeth "Betsey" "Betty" Page
Helena Eleanor Lee, born Apr 1730, died 23 Jul 1771; married Jarvis Jackson
Stephen Lee, born 3 Dec 1731, died Dec 1809; married Ann Poore
Deborah Lee, born 1736, died 23 Feb 1803; married John Hamilton Hodges
Benjamin Lee, born 1739, died 1803; married Mary Richardson
In 1730 he lived in Northampton, Lancaster County, Virginia. By 1731, he had moved to Goochland County, Virginia, where he owned land.[4]

He made his last Will on 15 Aug 1770.

He passed away on 10 Oct 1770[1] in Johnston County, North Carolina. [5][6][7]

On 18 Mar 1771 his estate was in the probate court of Goochland County, Virginia. [8]

The Will book says the Will was witnessed by the "mark" of Joseph Page, but the court record says it was signed by James Page. These were no doubt the sons of Axelheath Page - their sister Betsey had married John Lee, Jr.

WFT tree 2022, CD 12, shows his parents as Thomas and Ann Lee, and traces his Lee ancestry earlier than 1530 in Shropshire, England.

However, correspondence on 15 Apr 1999 from Lois Werline, of Kansas City, MO, shows his line as John (William, William, Richard Henry Lee) where Richard Henry Lee is the father of the Sir Richard Lee who married Letitia Corbin and who was the predecessor of the line of Gen. Robert E. Lee. (possible mother's Lee line).

It is not clear whether or not he ever lived in North Carolina. It is logical to assume he planned a trip to North Carolina, and made his will before leaving, a common practice when a journey was intended. His family seems to have continued living in Goochland County, Virginia.

Sources
↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 12 December 2020), memorial page for John James Lee Sr. (1705–10 Oct 1770), Find a Grave Memorial no. 141513688, ; Maintained by charlott jones (contributor 47003358) Unknown.
↑ Page, Daniel E., Descendants and Relatives of Exolheath Page of Goochland Co., Virginia; n.p., Oct 1 2004, pp 4-5
↑ Family Data Collection - Marriages compiled by Edmund West on ancestry.com
↑ 4.0 4.1 4.2 Kerns, Margaret Ann (Kepner), 729 NW 1101 Road, Urich, Missouri 64788-8121, research, analysis and conclusions 12 Dec 2020
↑ Family Data Collection - Deaths compiled by Edmund West on ancestry.com
↑ Web: North Carolina, Find A Grave Index 1716-2012 on ancestry.com
↑ U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current on ancestry.com
↑ Goochland County, Virginia, Deed book 10 pp 110-111 Will for John Lee, dated: 15 Aug 1770; probate: 18 Mar 1771
↑ Page, Daniel E., Descendants and Relatives of Exolheath Page of Goochland Co., Virginia; n.p., Oct 1 2004, pp. 1, 4, 17-20

See Also
American Genealogical-Biographical Index (AGBI) compiled by Godfrey Memorial Library on ancestry.com
U.S., Revolutionary War Rolls 1775-1783 on ancestry.com; Military Service: Virginia, USA
U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications 1889-1970 on ancestry.com

DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with John by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA. However, there are no known yDNA or mtDNA test-takers in his direct paternal or maternal line. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with John:
~0.78% Lori Smith Find Relationship : AncestryDNA, GEDmatch A357705 [compare], Ancestry member lorismithstreeter2018
~0.78% Bettyrae (Brooks) Stiles Find Relationship : AncestryDNA
~0.39% Richard Starkey Find Relationship : AncestryDNA
~0.39% Donald Franklin Find Relationship : AncestryDNA, GEDmatch A770980 [compare], Ancestry member donfranklin2000
~0.39% William Pitts Find Relationship : AncestryDNA, GEDmatch DF8884800 [compare], Ancestry member pbillpitts
~0.39% Nicki Bennett Find Relationship : AncestryDNA, Ancestry member nfburton72
~0.39% David Warvel Find Relationship : AncestryDNA, GEDmatch A859490 [compare], Ancestry member warveld
~0.39% R David Lee Find Relationship : AncestryDNA, GEDmatch T590336 [compare], Ancestry member RDAVIDLEE52
~0.39% Chris Hamlin Find Relationship : 23andMe + AncestryDNA, GEDmatch A564981 [compare], Ancestry member Cghamlin1
~0.39% Barbara (Palmer) Pyka Find Relationship : 23andMe + AncestryDNA, Ancestry member barbarapyka
~0.39% X DNA ~3.12% Mary Clarkson Find Relationship : AncestryDNA, GEDmatch T153691 [compare], Ancestry member MaryinSD + Family Tree DNA Family Finder, GEDmatch T153591 [compare], FTDNA kit #272750
~0.39% Lance Hall Find Relationship : AncestryDNA, Ancestry member lancehall
~0.39% Shereen Oldham Find Relationship : AncestryDNA, GEDmatch A605837 [compare], Ancestry member ShereenVenning
~0.39% Judy Scott Find Relationship : AncestryDNA, Ancestry member scottjma
~0.39% Ken Ortensie Find Relationship : 23andMe + AncestryDNA + Family Tree DNA Family Finder + MyHeritage DNA
~0.39% Susan (Rice) Campbell Find Relationship : 23andMe + AncestryDNA, GEDmatch M134454 [compare], Ancestry member Sjphdoc + Family Tree DNA Family Finder, FTDNA kit #14962
~0.39% Christopher Jacobs Find Relationship : Family Tree DNA Family Finder, FTDNA kit #9988
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My Heritage Trees:

John Lee
MyHeritage Family TreesTrainer Tavel Web Site, managed by Robert Tavel
Birth
Oct 11 1705 - Charles City, Charles, Virginia, United States
Death
Oct 10 1770 - St James Northam, Goochland, Virginia, United States
Parents
Thomas Lee, Dorothy Lee (born Taylor)
Wife
Lucy Lee (born Braxton)
Wife
Lucy Braxton Page
Son
John James Ii Lee

John Lee
MyHeritage Family TreesPagel, managed by Barbara Pagel
Birth
Oct 11 1705 - Virginia, British Colonial America
Death
Oct 10 1770 - Goochland, Virginia, British Colonial America
Wife
Lucy Lee (born Braxton)
Children
Helena Eleanor Lee, Stephen Lee, John James Lee, Benjamin Lee, Deborah Hodges (born Lee), Deborah Lee

John Lee
MyHeritage Family TreesFrei Web Site, managed by C Frei
Birth
1705 - Charles City, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Death
Oct 10 1770 - St James, Goochland, Virginia, USA
Parents
Thomas Lee, Elizabeth Lee (born Keene)
Wife
Lucy Lee (born Braxton)
Daughter
Helena Eleanor Jackson (born Lee)

John Lee
MyHeritage Family TreesReinhold Web Site, managed by Caitlyn Reinhold
Birth
Oct 11 1705 - Charles City, Charles City County, Virginia, United States
Death
Oct 10 1770 - St. James Northampton, Goochland, Virginia, United States
Parents
Thomas Lee, Ann Lee (born Morton)
Siblings
John Lee, John Lee, Leeanna Fearn (born Lee), Thomas Lee, Lucy Lee, Richard Lee, Ann Lee, Charles Lee, Elizabeth Dibrell (born Lee)
Wife
Anne Lucy “elizabeth” Lee (born Page)
Partner
<Private> Lee
Partner
<Private> Lee
Children
Richard Lee, Charles Lee, Helena Lee, Stephen Lee, John Lee, Sr., Benjamin Lee, Deborah Lee, Daughter Lee, Stephan Lee

John Lee
MyHeritage Family TreesSandra Lyne Crane, managed by Sandra Boyager
Birth
1705 - Middlesex, Virginia, British Colonial America
Death
Oct 10 1770 - St. Jame's Parish, Goochland, Virginia, British Colonial America
Wife
Lucinda Lee (born Braxton)
Children
Rebecca Lee, Henry Lee, Edward Lee, Francis Lee, Infant Lee, Eleanor Helena Lee, Stephen Lee, John James Lee, Benjamin Lee, Deborah Hodges (born Lee)

John Lee
MyHeritage Family TreesLee Web Site, managed by Robert Edward Lee
Birth
Oct 11 1705 - Charles City, Charles, Virginia, United States
Death
Oct 10 1770 - St James Northam, Goochland, Virginia, United States
Parents
Thomas William Lee, Elizabeth Ann Lee (born Keene)
Brother
John Lee Sr.
Wife
Lucy Seaton Lee (born Braxton)
Children
John J Lee, Stephen Lee

John Lee
MyHeritage Family TreesWilfong Web Site, managed by Cynthia Wilfong
Birth
1705 - Charles City, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Death
Oct 10 1770 - St James, Goochland, Virginia, USA
Parents
Thomas Lee, Unknown Lee (born Ann)
Siblings
Charles Lee, <Private> Lee

John Lee
MyHeritage Family TreesSharp Web Site, managed by John Lee Sharp
Birth
1705 - Charles City, Virginia
Death
Oct 10 1770 - St. James Parish, Goochland, Virginia
Parents
Thomas Lee, Elizabeth Ann Lee (born Keene)
Siblings
William Lee, Thomas Lee, Richard Lee, Charles Lee, Lucy Lee, Leeanna Fearn (born Lee), Elizabeth Dibrell (born Lee), Ann Lee
Wife
Lucy Lee

John Lee
MyHeritage Family TreesDavid Abbott Family Web Site, managed by David H. Abbott
Birth
Oct 11 1705 - Richmond, Wise, Virginia, United States
Death
Oct 10 1770 - St James Parish, Goochland, Virginia, USA
Parents
Thomas Lee, Ann Lee (born Morton)
Sister
Lucy Lee
Wife
Lucy Lee (born Braxton)
Son
Stephan Lee
John Lee

MyHeritage Family TreesDoug BRUCE Web Site, managed by Doug BRUCE
Birth
1705 - Charles City, Fairfax, Virginia
Death
Oct 10 1770 - St James Northam, Goochland, Virginia
Father
Thomas Lee
Wife
Lucy Lee (born Page)
Daughter
Helena Jackson (born Lee)

John Lee
MyHeritage Family TreesMeek Web Site, managed by Calvin Meek
Birth
1705 - Charles City, Charles, Virginia, United States
Death
Oct 10 1770 - St James Northam, Goochland, Virginia, United States
Parents
Thomas Lee, Elizabeth Ann Lee (born Keene)
Siblings
Thomas Lee, William Lee, John Lee, John Lee, John Lee, John Lee, Richard Lee, Charles Lee, John Lee, John Lee, Elizabeth Lee

John Lee
MyHeritage Family TreesFamily site (Family Tree Legends), managed by Alice Henry
Birth
1705 - CHARLOTTE, VIRGINIA
Death
Oct 10 1770 - ST. JAMES PARISH, GOOCHLAND, VIRGINIA
Parents
John Thomas Lee, Ann Morton
Siblings
William Lee, Thomas Lee, Richard Lee, Charles Lee, Elizabeth Lee, Elizabeth Betsey Lee, Charles Lee
Wife
Lucy ( Seaton ) Lee (born Braxton)
Wife
Lucy Seaton Lee (born Braxton)
Children
Helena Lee, Stephen Lee, John I. Lee, Benjamin Lee, John Lee, Helena Lee, Deborah Lee, Deborah Lee, Benjamin Lee, Stephen Lee

John Lee
MyHeritage Family TreesClark Web Site, managed by Louis Clark
Birth
1705 - Charles City, Charles, Virginia, United States
Death
Oct 10 1770 - St James Parish, Goochland, Virginia, United States
Parents
Thomas Lee, Ann Lee (born Morton)
Siblings
William Lee, William Lee, Richard Henry Lee, Richard Henry Lee, Charles Lee, John Lee, Elizabeth Lee, Elizabeth Lee, James Lee, Rachel Lee, William Lee, John Lee, Ann Lee, Leanna Lee, Thomas Lee, Richard Lee, Lucy Lee, Elizabeth Lee, Charles Lee, Ann Meredith (born Lee), John Lee
John Lee

MyHeritage Family Treesgraham Web Site, managed by Melissa Graham
Birth
1705 - Charles City, Charles, Virginia, USA
Death
10 October, 1770 - St James Northam, Goochland, Virginia, USA
Parents
Thomas Lee, Ann Lee (born Morton)
Siblings
William Lee, William Lee, Thomas Lee, Richard Lee, Charles Lee, John Lee Lee, Leanna Lee, Elizabeth Lee Dibrell, Elizabeth "betty" Lee
Wife
Lucy Seaton Lee (born Braxton)
Children
Helena Lee, Stephan Lee, John Lee, Deborah Lee, Benjamin Lee, Stephen Lee

(too many to list - hundreds more like these on myheritage.com - even more on ancestry.com)
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https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/lee/15260/
Re: Lee, VA, OH
By Dennis Lee January 12, 2003 at 08:27:24
In reply to: Re: Lee, VA, OH
Bonnie Long 1/11/03
Is this your boy (look for Henry T. Lee s/o John James Lee III and Jane Tuggle)?Be careful about this data - not all of it is verified.

      2. Charles C. Lee

             b. May 21, 1656, Cobbs Hall, Northampton, Northumberland, VA

             d. 1701 Northumberland, VA

             founder of "Cobbs Hall" Line of Lees.Cobbs Hall is in Northumberland Co, next door to Richard (the Immigrant's) home of Dividing Creek.

             m1. Elizabeth Keene

             3. Thomas Lee

                    b. ca 1679, Cobbs Hall, Northampton, VA

                    d. ca 1735, Lanchaster Co, VA

                    m. Ann ???, a 1700

                           b. ca 1682, Northampton, VA

                    m. Elizabeth Medstand

                     He was Sheriff of Lancaster Co, Va.

                    4. Thomas Lee

                           d. 1759 Lancaster Co. VA

                           m. Lucy

                           5. John Lee

                                  b. 1705, Charles City, VA

                                  d. 10 Oct 1770, VA

                                  m. ???

                                  6. John Lee

                                         b. 1732, Goochland Co, VA

                                         d. 1779, Goochland Co, VA

                                         will: Goochland Co, VA, 19 July 1779

                    4. William Lee

                           m. Dorothy ???

                    4. Richard Lee

                    4. Charles Lee

                    4. Elizabeth Medstand Lee

                           b. 11 Aug 1688, Cobbs Hall, Northampton, VA

                           m. Thomas Buford, Jr., 1704, Middlesex Co, VA

                    4. Steven Lee

                  '''  4. John Lee

                           got land in GA

                           b. ca 1708 VA

                           d. 10 Oct 1770, Goochland Co, VA

                           funeral: 13 Oct 1770 in Goochland Co, VA

                           will: Goochland Co, VA, 18 Mar 1771

                           m. Lucy Page, ca 1729, VA (or Lucy Braxton?)'''

                                  b. ca 1710

                                  d. ca 23 Jul 1771, Goochland Co, VA

                                  funeral: July 24, 1771 in Goochland Co, VA

                           5. Helen/Helena Eleanor Lee

                                  b. ca 1730, VA

                                  d. ca 1775

                                  m. Jarvis Jackson, bef. 1749

                           5. John Lee, Jr.

                                  b. ca 1732/4, Northampton, Lancaster Co, VA

                                  d. 19 Jul 1779, St. James Northam Parish, Goochland Co, VA

                                  John was a PS VA in the Rev. War.

                                  m. Elizabeth "Betty" Page, 11 Sep 1755, Goochland, VA

                                         b. ca 1737, VA

                                         d. > 1797, VA

                                  6. Lewis Lee

                                         b. 9 Aug 1757, Goochland Co, VA

                                         bapt. 2 Oct 1757

                                         d. in American Revolution

                                  6. Mary Lee

                                         b. 27 Apr 1759, Goochland Co, VA

                                         bapt. 27 May 1759

                                         m1. ??? Carter

                                         m2. Robert Furlong, 30 Jun 1778, VA

                                  6. Ann Lee

                                         b. 13 Oct 1760, Goochland Co, VA

                                         bapt. 7 Dec 1760

                                         m. ??? Crane

                                  6. Philip Lee

                                         b. 14 Feb 1762, Goochland Co, VA

                                         baptized 9 May 1762

                                  6. John James Lee III

                                         b. 7/8 May 1764, St. James Northam Parish, Goochland, Middlesex Co, VA

                                         baptized 3 June 1764

                                         d. 1820 Davidson Co, TN

                                         m Jane / Jeannie / Mary Tuggle, 7 May 1788, St. James Northam Parish, Goochland, Middlesex Co, VA

                                                b. 23 Feb 1769, Christ Church Parish, Goochland, Middlesex Co, VA

                                                d. ca 1849, Ashland City, Cheatham Co, TN

                                                d/o Henry Tuggle III and Ellender Connolly

                                         7. Henry T. Lee

                                         7. John Lee

                                         7. Martha "Patsy" Lee

                                         7. Unknown Lee

                                         7. Jane Lee

                                         7. Tarlton Lee

                                         7. James Lee

                                         7. Elizabeth Lee

                                         7. Mary Lee

                                         7. Nancy Lee

                                         7. Lewis Lee

                                         7. Thirza Ann Lee

                                  6. Edward B. Lee

                                         b. Jul 7, 1766, Goochland Co, VA

                                         bapt. Aug 31, 1766

                                         m. Polly James, 22 Dec 1796

                                  6. Stephen Lee,

                                         b. Nov 26, 1768

                                         baptized Jan 29, 1769

                                         m. Betsy Strong, 2 Apr 1787

                                  6. Tarlton Lee

                                         b. 26 Jan 1771, Goochland Co, VA

                                         bapt. Mar 17, 1771

                                         d. 6 Sep 1847, Shelby Co, KY

                                         m. Elizabeth Farrar, 27 Dec 1793, Fluvanna Co, VA

                                                b. 14 Aug 1769, Goochland Co, VA

                                                d. 23 Jul 1832, Shelby Co, KY

                                         7. John Lee

                                                m1. Rebecca Townsend, Shelby Co, KY

                                                m2. Marcy Bird

                                         7. Matilda Lee

                                                m. Alfred Baskett, 25 Sep 1826, Shelby Co, KY

                                         7. Mary "Polly" Lee

                                                m. Campbell P. Clark, 19 Aug 1829, Shelby Co, KY

                                         7. Elizabeth Lee

                                                m. John Truman, 22 Dec 1818, Shelby Co, KY

                                         7. Lewis Lee

                                                m. Lucy Johnson, 15 Sep 1834, Shelby Co, KY

                                         7. Nancy Lee

                                                m. James Miller, 30 Oct 1825, Shelby Co, KY

                                  6. William Lee

                                         b. Jan 28, 1774

                                         bapt. 13 Mar 1774

                                         m. Nancy Sadler, 17 Oct 1795, Fluvanna Co, VA

Dennis

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And these comments also.

* https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141513688/john-james-lee On find a grave it shows John James Lee was the son of Thomas Lee (1679-1735) who was the son of Charles Lee and Elizabeth Medstand. Charles Lee was the son of Richard Lee and Anne Constable. Anne Constable was the daughter of Francis Constable and Alice Agnes Owen. (Curator had this recently changed - see discussion: https://www.geni.com/discussions/233728 and had parents detatched without explaination)

• https://colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I27686&tr... not listed, and location is wrong to be this John Lee’s family (/) link broken
• https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lee-3391 no parents listed - From WikiTree profile: WFT tree 2022, CD 12, shows his parents as Thomas and Ann Lee, and traces his Lee ancestry earlier than 1530 in Shropshire, England.
• https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/G9ZX-MG9
• October 11, 1705 is alternate birth date - why? no proof for the argument and unclear why the tampering is being done.

STATEMENT: “DNA proves John Lee is NOT related to Thomas Lee” per what evidence as newly recent DNA data has confirmed MRCA matches from direct descendants using Y-DNA, Autosomal and MIT DNA - linear. per provide exact evidence of the contrary.

The earliest confirmed ancestors in the Lee family tree are John and Lucy Lee who settled on Fleming’ Park Creek in Goochland County, VA about 1728. John was born ca 1705 in Virginia. At this time we do not have information on Lucy’s maiden name or family history.
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Early Lees of Goochland - Jacob Hunter Trust
jacobhuntertrust.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Early-Lees-of-Goochland.pdf - this is not to be considered a publication of historical merit, it is a private webpage author and DNA assertions unknown/unverifyable.

Started a section in the profile for John Lee, of Goochland County

Disputed Origins

Seen as a son of Thomas Lee (1679 - 1735), son of Charles Lee & Elizabeth Medstand. This Thomas Lee, of Lancaster County, Virginia, wrote his will in 1733, and his children were all minors.

Extracted from https://colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I27686&tr... retrieved 4 June 2022:

• Abstracts of Lancaster County, Virginia Wills 1653-1800; {Ida J. Lee}
• LEE, Thomas. Division of estate. Rec. 12 Nov. 1742.
• James Scrosby & Eliza. his wife, Exors. Estate divided between Elizabeth & her children Leanna, Elizabeth, Thomas, Richard, John, Charles, & Lucy Lee. W.B. 13, p. 303

The name of Thomas Lee's wife is not known. His children, all minors in 1733, were named in his will and in that of his second son, Thomas in 1758, with these exceptions: William, the eldest, and Richard, the third sons, are omitted, and a daughter, Elizabeth, is added; she must have been born after the making of her father's will.

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The John Lee mentioned in Will was born about 1725. See https://colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I73467&tr...

1653-1800 Lancaster County, Virginia Wills [Ida J. Lee];
LEE, Lucy, one of the daus. of Thos. Lee, dec. Rec. 2 Dec. 1746. Division of estate. Legatees: John Lee, Thomas Lee, Leana Fearn, Betty Lee, Richard Lee, Charles Lee, John Lee. W.B. 14, p. 147.
24 Mar. 1745. John Lee and Lucy Lee, orphans of Thomas Lee. W.B. 14, p. 104.

On geni that profile is John Lee, of Little River

This is a nice reference, thank you.

• “Abstracts of Virginia families : vol. 1]; L-O.” Statement of Responsibility: compiled by Delores Crumrine Rutherford. (1990). “John Lee in Goochland County, Va. Court Records. http://www.familysearch.org/library/books/idurl/1/846212 <Search on “John Lee”>

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What I’m curious about is the sisters mentioned in the Will extract. Surely that’s an origin clue?

OK, Jacqueli Charlene Finley I think I’ve addressed most of the points, and I’ll describe the ones I’m not addressing.

1. There’s no need to list out MyHeritage tree details unless there’s a different point made that’s not mentioned or incorporated in the Master Profile. This is because they’re stuck to the profile as SmartMatches, so it’s redundancy after redundancy until I’m dizzy. :)

2. I did add external site trees as references, with a comment next to it on their parents listed.

3. But I think the main problem might be because the links to https://colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I27686&tr... didn’t work for you. Probably truncated. So I aliased it for easier clicking.

4. I’m not going to discuss DNA test results except as it’s uploaded to Geni, or FamilyTree DNA Y DNA projects I can see - except my own family, O guess! The “DNA doesn’t match” comment came from a FamilySearch tree member, so it’s that person you may want to work with.

5. But again, I think you’ll see the origin difficulty once you examine Thomas Lee’s estate. His son John was a minor at that time, which conflicts with the birth date - and locations seen - for the John Lee.

Hope this helps.

If I’m understanding the “research note” on Wikitree correctly:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lee-3391

in 1999 a Lois Werline proposed this John Lee was a son of William, son of William of Col. Richard “the scholar” Lee, II

Who didn’t have a son William, so …

I’m thinking that doesn’t even rise to deserving a whole section. I’m just going to annotate the reference on the Wikitree list.

Here’s another resource describing the family of Thomas Lee (d 1735).

Garner-Keene families of Northern Neck, Virginia, by Ruth Ritchie and Sudie Rucker Wood. by Ritchie, Ruth, 1903- (Publication date 1952) Topics Garner family Publisher [Charlottesville? Va., 1952]. Page 203.

https://archive.org/details/garnerkeenefamil00ritc/page/203/mode/1up

Oh boy.

This John Lee, of Little River does not look like John Lee, of Lancaster County to me.

John (3rd son of Thomas) was living in 1759 when he’s named in his brother Thomas Lee Jr’s Will.

He was left property by his father: “ … Item, I give and bequeath unto son John all that tract of Land on ye head of Corrotoman River which I had by my wife where Harvey now lives to him and the heirs of his body Lawfully begotten for ever Provided the Child my wife goes with be not a boy which if it be then my will is that the sd. Land be Equally Divided between them and the heirs of their Bodys Lawfully begotten for ever. …”

But, notes for Thomas Lee are that “in 1751 he moved to Rocky Creek, Chester County, South Carolina on the waters of Wateree River …”

And, he married in Maryland (probably 2nd marriage) in 1746.

Which means he’s probably not the father of Thomas Lee, of Ditchley

If anyone can identify parents of these people better, please speak up.

Correction:

But, notes for Thomas Lee are that “in 1751 he moved to Rocky Creek, Chester County, South Carolina on the waters of Wateree River …”

Should be John Lee, not Thomas.

Thank you, you’re ahead of me on her. I was still trying to figure out what a “Catholic Presbyterian” is. :). They had a good church historian, though, and preserved John Lee, of Little River records:

The Revolutionary Soldiers of Catholic Presbyterian Church Chester County, South Carolina”. Pages 79-82

http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~circuitcourtrecords/genealogy/fgr3/c...