Richard Lee of Coton is the Father of Col Richard Lee – Lee of Virginia

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8/17/2021 at 8:38 AM
8/17/2021 at 9:26 AM

Evidential Proof of Parental/Child Connection:

Regarding Will of Richardus Lee (Richard Lee of Coton) Proven:


JOHN LEE of Coton Hall (aged circa 59 in 1588/9) mar. Joyce, only dau. of John Romney of
Lulsley, co. Worcester, bur. Aiveley, 4 Dec. 1609

Thomas William Edward Gilbert RICHARD

Mentioned in Chancery suit 1610 — j Elizabeth Bendy

as having life interest in farm at | married at Aiveley apd.
Aiveley apd. Bapt. at Aiveley 21 Oct. 1599.

6 Oct. 1563. Ment <! in Wills of
his father 1605 and brother Gil-
bert 1621. (Left Aiveley to live
at Stratford Langthorne, Essex. )

8/17/2021 at 9:30 AM
*Full text of "Genealogical history of the Lee family of Virginia and Maryland from A.D. 1300 to A.D. 1866, LEE FAMILY VIRGINIA AND MARYLAND FROM A.D. 1300 TO A.D. 1 866 WITH NOTES AND ILLUSTRATIONS EDITED BY EDWARD C. MEAD URL:

8/17/2021 at 9:39 AM


Pages 16, 20,21, 34, 35, 37,41, 42

8/17/2021 at 9:41 AM

Family Trees By François Weil Harvard University Press, Apr 30, 2013 - History - 320 pages;amp;a.........

8/17/2021 at 9:41 AM

Annual Report, Volume 2 By American Historical Association U.S. Government Printing Office, 1907 - Historiography Congressional Serial Set U.S. Government Printing Office, 1907 - United States Pg.929

8/17/2021 at 9:45 AM

Letter from Lancelot Lee, of Coton, to Thomas Lee, of Stratford JOURNAL ARTICLE: A New Clue to the Lee Ancestry: The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography Vol. 6, No. 3 (Jan., 1899), pp. 255-260 Published by: Virginia Historical Society Stable URL: Page Count:6 Title: A New Clue to the Lee Ancestry Created Date: 20160808195236Z

8/17/2021 at 9:49 AM

Edmund Jennings Lee, Lee of Virginia, 1642-1892: Biographical and Genealogical Sketches of the Descendants of Colonel Richard Lee, Pg. 38 Heritage Books, Jun 16, 2008 - Reference - 664 pages :

8/17/2021 at 9:56 AM

As Will of his father, Richardus Lee, wife Elizabeth Bendy, also does confirm lineage of Richard Lee b.1617/18 married Anne Constable: The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, Volume 46, Pg. 71.

8/17/2021 at 2:26 PM

You are too kind ... thank you T-lo Tina Ann Cavitt

8/17/2021 at 2:50 PM

I have been working on one for Richard and Anne - one for William and Alice too - but the accident stopped me short - maybe I need a ghost writer ....

4/16/2023 at 12:38 PM
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4/17/2023 at 7:41 AM

You may be on to something with Richard Lee of Coton and Elizabeth Bendy nee Brooke, but hard primary evidence is as elusive as ever. If so, though, Col. Richard Lee must have been born by 1610, when Elizabeth Brooke Bendy Lee died and was buried in Kingswinford, Staffordshire. (One Alan Nicholls tracked down that little factoid.)

This supports the theory that the Richard Lee who deposed in 1642? in Lower Norfolk County *Was* Col. Richard Lee (right age bracket), but raises the question of *which* Richard Lee deposed to the Admiralty in 1654 (age bracket does not match). Most people have assumed the opposite, but it could go either way (and given the age discrepancy it id unlikely they were the same person but which one was whom?).

4/17/2023 at 10:04 AM

Jacqueli Charlene Finley -- you are giving information; so is Maven. That the information might be problematic is neither inappropriate nor misleading; it's part of the usual course of genealogical discussions, wherein evidence and sources are discussed and weighed.

4/17/2023 at 10:23 AM

Private User maybe you should read the book before your critics - as I am trying to be helpful to other researchers by giving them information.

Anne Brannen noted and edited to reflect respect to others.

Private User
4/17/2023 at 12:53 PM

I rather doubt there is anything in those expensive little works that you haven't already posted here over and over and over again.

4/17/2023 at 1:24 PM

Private User the users here on geni are intelligent and able to make their own choices to what they wish to use as a reference or source without censorship as geni is a genealogy social media platform for such purposes whether you agree or not or have a different opinion or dislike the author of the material published. The books are also available on free ebook platforms as well.

I have never seen or heard of anyone disparaging a published genealogy reference or book as "expensive little works" on Geni or elsewhere for that matters as you have just done and is highly unnecessary.

Private User
4/17/2023 at 1:41 PM

You *have* been very prolific here, Jacqueli, and that's admirable in itself. But you also have a track record of going overboard trying to claim that something "proves" what you want it to mean - when it doesn't.

DNA research has not at this time shown a connection between the Lees of Virginia and the Lees of Coton - but it may be another "Richard III v. Somersets" issue. (Remember that? The paper trail said that the five Somerset testees were Richard's collateral cousins - but one of the five didn't match the other four, and *none* of them matched Richard at all.)

The difficulty seems to be that there is uncertainty in the Lee of Coton paper trail - three purported descendants of Lee of Coton were found and tested, but one didn't match the other two and none of them matched Lee of Virginia. So here we go again.

4/17/2023 at 1:54 PM

Private User the Lee Y-DNA project claims are proving wrong and DNA evidence does prove otherwise.

All I can recall is the considerable push back to the truth and false Y-DNA haplogroup claims as Y-DNA is limited not the other way around. NPEs never can show with Y-DNA but can with Autosomal - and using both male and female Lee DNA donors.

The rest is just rhetoric following the same pattern.

Whatever you or others believe my track record is or isn't is not for you to post your opinion to disparage my research credibility publicly.

The only discrediting to previous Lee research was the Y-DNA haplogroup assignments that went to the Lees of Virginia lines which was the incorrect thing to do for all the Lee relatives involved. It goes 100% against DNA science what they did in doing so.

DNA has advanced since then when many were vulnerable to such tactics. And that is the true science and again, users on Geni and other genealogy sites can make up their own minds with the evidence that is now available, not just what they are being told is and is not so.

Private User
4/17/2023 at 2:21 PM

There You Go Again.

4/17/2023 at 3:00 PM

re disparaged published genealogy references — that a work of genealogy is published does not in itself make it reputable. That would come from being vetted by solid experts, and by having solid evidence and logic. This is of course why books that have not gone through an editing and publishing process at a reputable publishing house are always more suspect.

4/17/2023 at 4:40 PM

Anne Brannen I suggest then let the public decide as my books are well sourced, documented, and evidence vetted by others than this platform.

Less than what I present with the solid facts and primary documentation I found have been used too often that lack substance.

Opinion is just that, an opinion.

Regardless - Evidence based facts and documentation are what I have presented. Not opinion.

Geni users are intelligent and can make up their own minds what they wish to choose as a source or not.

BTW - not all genealogy/historic references, publications are from 'publishing houses' nowadays - one would be hard pressed to find one that are vetted by 'solid experts' - or any publishers that have editors that are experts on the subjects. That is where the bibliography and sourcing is most important and I can assure you that my books are complete with both.
I can say most likely at least 10 times as many sources and facts than what is promoted on genealogy sites as a source on a daily basis, as most quoted lack any legal merit or facts.

I think it prudent to give a book a chance before giving judgement on it's cover, subject matter, or biased opinion.

DNA is catching up with all of this Cousin...when it all eventually does...they wont be able to argue anymore.

4/18/2023 at 9:08 AM

Lies have a way of unraveling for sure cousin regardless of all the attempts to censor the truth.

Take care Beverly Renee Hallman Marsh, Gedmatch Kit #XK9447597

Yes indeed.

Richard Lee of Coton Hall is my 9th cousin 11 times removed.

Captain William Lee, Esq. is my 11th cousin five times removed.

Richard Lee, I is my 12th cousin four times removed.

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