Samuel Jordan, of Jordan's Journey - This is another one of those lines that shows as a cousin from the profile but a direct from a child's profile

This is the Master Profile for Joane (Jordan) Palmer.
Curator Note from Erica Howton (2/29/2020):
Parents need verification

It I were you, I’d be highly skeptical of the connection. No proof, and apparently chronology doesn’t add up.

What does that have to do with the question of Joan Jordan Palmer’s parents? It you show as a Palmer descendant, then it’s up to you to validate linkages, isn’t it?

My only input is to be skeptical, and suggest you not let it stand. I don’t know enough either way.

Yes, being curious is excellent. But now that you’re here, don’t run away or abdicate responsibility. Examine the evidence for the claim “you” made to the well known (and glamorous) Samuel Jordan. Because I’m about to break the connection otherwise.

The only known child of Thomas Palmer of Shirley Hundred Island & Joane Palmer looks to be Priscilla Baker

I don’t see evidence to support them as parents of Edward Palmer; Thomas Palmer; Martin Palmer, of King William County; Mary Palmer; or Samuel Palmer

For Palmer research, this site looks OK.

https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~palmerpaths/genealogy/pg6814.html

The first Palmer of record in Virginia can quite accurately be said to be Thomas Palmer who came over from England in the ship "Tiger" in 1623 with his wife Joane and daughter Priscilla, age 11 years old. On Feb. 16, 1623 these three are given as residing in Virginia at Jordan's Journey which is probably just below City Point.

This Thomas was a member of Burgesses of the Colony which assembled at Jamestown Oct. 16, 1629 and he represented Shirley Hundred Island. He was also a member again on March 24 1629/30 from Hundred Main. He was commander of a company of Shirley Hundred men and was called Captain. He was a Justice appointed in March 1631/32 for the monthly courts for the upper parts of the counties of Charles City and Henrico. Jane and Priscilla appear in Charles City County in 1637 as head rights under John Baker as patentee. Whether Thomas had died by 1637 we do not know, nor do we know whether he had other children. None appear of record.

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And that’s it.

No origins for wife.

McCartney, Martha W. Virginia Immigrants and Adventurers 1607-1635: A Biographical Dictionary; Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, MD, 2007, p. 531. image. No maiden name for Joan Palmer.

And more children (but no Martin). Looks like the other children were in England.

JUDITH CHRISTINE INCE - do you have a link? As you know, we disagree on the first wife & children of Samuel Jordan (I don’t believe they are much known), but I’m happy to look at what others have to say. This is the first I recall that Anne Baker had a first husband?

Geni is more or less the same as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Jordan & https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Jordan-224 so I’m curious about what other sites?

In fact, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Jordan-267 (which I believe has errors) comments:

Note: there is no documentation of Samuel Jordan ever marrying someone named Frances Baker. Frances Baker is fictional.):

Anne Maria Jordan 1596–1630
Robert Jordan 1598–1622
Thomas Jordan Sr. 1600–1684
Samuel Jordan 1608–164?

This is the Anne Baker you mean, I’ll look for the Greene’s.

Anne Greene

Yes, I’m detangling the messed up tree now. See https://www.geni.com/discussions/242903?msg=1534890

Here’s Visitations of Worcester taken in 1683, which is more detailed on the Baker family than the London one, but doesn’t have anything more on Ann Baker & John Greene.

https://archive.org/details/visitationofcoun00maytrich/page/6/mode/1up

I’m not sure yet, but I think I found this John Greene of Clifford’s Inn, and if I understand it right, he became a burgess of Stratford on Avon, and his brother (also a lawyer) was William Shakespeare’s best buddy.

https://groups.google.com/g/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/c/ja...

Thomas Greene’s brother John Greene, one of Stratford's principle Burgesses, was appointed solicitor to the Stratford Corporation in 1612. In 1613, he was made deputy town clerk.

Collins succeeded Greene as Stratford town clerk in 1617. Also, Collins had been at Clement's Inn with Thomas' brother John Greene, who was also a Stratford resident and an acquaintance of Shakespeare. [note 5]

I think the Bakers came into the Palmers via Priscilla Baker and not before.

https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I7261... Describes her husband John Baker.

John Baker, III - shows as son of John Baker, II

Not sure this is right, as usual no one has sourced. I’ll come back to it. Chasing up the Greene’s is far more appealing. They claim a cousin kinship to Shakespeare.

Yes, I have a lot more to do on the Queens Surgeon line. I don’t think this Greene family is on Geni, and I really want to make that tree.
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5. Mark Eccles, Shakespeare in Warwickshire (1961), 118, 129-30. John Greene served as trustee for Shakespeare's Blackfriars gatehouse in 1617/18 on behalf of Susanna Hall, and he was also an attorney for Shakespeare's friends Hamnet Sadler and Thomas Russell.

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Thomas Greene in London and Stratford
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Thomas Greene was probably born in the early 1570s (his younger brother John was born about 1575), the eldest of three sons of Thomas Greene of Warwick, mercer, and Isabel Lingen. [note 8] The Greenes were Puritans; the elder Thomas supported the Puritan Job Throckmorton of Hasely for Parliament in 1586, and as we shall see below, the younger Thomas was later cited for recusancy. The father died in 1590, leaving Thomas eighty pounds and a gray mare. Soon afterwards Thomas went to London and entered Staple Inn, where he began his study of the law, and on 20 November 1595, he entered the Middle Temple. His sureties were John Marston, Master of the Bench, and his son John Marston, the future satirist and dramatist, who had entered three years earlier. …
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<<‪Thomas Greene‬, son of Thomas Greene and Isabel Lingen, married
Lettice Tutt of West Meane, Southampton by whom he had six children
including an Anne (b. 1604) and a William (b. 1608). He is also the
same Thomas Greene who contributed a commentary poem to the 1603
edition of Michael Drayton's _The Baron's Wars_. Lived in Stratford.
Family was descended from the "Tamworth" Greenes. Apprentice to the
Law in the "Middle Temple" 1623. Lived for a while in Bristow.>>

Appendix 1

Thomas Greene's will (abstract courtesy of Rick Abrams)

Thomas Greene of the Middle Temple, London Will: 1641 PCC 88 Evelyn

• Soul to God;
• body "to the earthe to bee buryed in Christian buryall where it shall seeme best to my Executors with as little charge as may bee";
• bequest to the "Collegiat or Cathedral of Trinity Bristoll";
• to "the poore of the hospitall of St Johns Church in Bristoll".
• To my son William "40 shillings to make him a ringe";
• ditto to my son Gifford.
• To my Daughter his [i.e. Gifford's] wife;
• to my daughter Holloway;
• to my daughter Margarett;
• to my Grandchild Thomas Holloway;
• to my Grandchild Humfrey Holloway;
• to "my foure clerkes which shall at my Death serve me";
• ”to my Maid Servant dwellinge with me at the tyme of my Death";
• the rest to "Lettice my moste Deare & Loving wife being sorry that I have no more than I have to so good a woman. And her I make my whole and sole Executrix of this my last Will"
• (w) Ben: Tibbott, William Bullocke.