ATTENTION Curators, please assist

Mike Stangel G

2/23/2022 at 4:32 PM

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Private User

2/24/2022 at 2:51 AM

https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=81533899200

please unmerge.

Thank you

Alex Moes C

2/24/2022 at 2:52 AM

Private User unmerged

Private User

2/24/2022 at 4:24 AM

Merge-issue: There appears to be two different profiles about the same person lined as mother and daughter even if the years are approximated the same.

This as the mother is the same as her sc. daughter:
Alice de la Haye

So called daughter, but born in the same timespan as the previous Alice:
Alicia Hay

Please assist, kind regards,
Maria

Alex Moes C

2/24/2022 at 4:35 AM

Private User there is a 15 year age difference between the two Alice's, a daughter being named after her mother is not unusual.

Burke's Peerage and the Scot's Peerage are by no means infallible but this is a research question better raised with other users interested in Scots genealogy of the early Middle Ages, it's not a technical issue that a Curator is just going to know the answer to off the top of their heads :)

(No Name)

2/24/2022 at 5:45 AM

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000013837759057?return=dupli...

Is this a good merge?

Private User

2/24/2022 at 6:21 AM

Private — it is not; the reason it’s there is that some bad merges happened down the line.

Working on it now.,

(No Name)

2/24/2022 at 10:40 AM

Sounds good Private User ....
I will stay out of there :)

Private User

2/25/2022 at 5:17 PM

Please unmerge, the parents and siblings do not match.

https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=81541148390

This one also doesn't match.

https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=81541137390

We have to be very careful with the Wilsons because both the surname with its variant spellings and many of their given names are very common. I spent a great deal of time researching and documenting our branch which includes a landholding veteran of the American Revolution as one of the patriarchs. Without proper documentation the many different Wilson branches of that era can easily become confused.

Thank you.

Private User

2/25/2022 at 6:04 PM

The elder William Wilson (born in Yorkshire, England; died in Fairfield Co., SC), brother of John Wilson, in his will dated 1812 named no blood heirs other than his brother. (John William Son = John Williamson, and is not identified in the will as a family member).

"South Carolina Probate Records, Bound Volumes, 1671-1977," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-JWSW-MK?cc=1919417&amp... : 21 May 2014), Fairfield > Wills, 1785-1865 > image 444 of 1573; citing Department of Archives and History, Columbia.

So the William Wilson in the recent merge, who was born in Virginia and married with children -- is not the same William who otherwise would have been James Wilson's uncle.

Private User

2/25/2022 at 6:08 PM

The witnesses on William Wilson's will are further evidence that he was our James Wilson's uncle, as they all three have proven family connections.

Private User

2/25/2022 at 6:32 PM

There is a Patrick Norris listed on the 1820 census for Fairfield Co., possibly the Norris who married James' sister, Martha. Nevertheless, our Martha was the daughter of John Jr. (not William) Wilson.

In my notes I have Margaret Johnston (James' granddaughter) married to Abraham Norris (proven with court probate records). And Rachel Wilson, James' niece, married "a Norris". But no real proof of marriage between Patrick Norris and Martha Wilson. That she did marry a Norris is proven by their father, John Wilson, Jr.'s will.

"South Carolina Probate Records, Bound Volumes, 1671-1977," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-JWS4-WR?cc=1919417&amp... : 21 May 2014), Fairfield > Wills, 1785-1865 > image 231 of 1573; citing Department of Archives and History, Columbia.

Private User

2/25/2022 at 6:50 PM

Private User, I've done what I can; for anything else, you may need the help of a curator who isn't blocked.

If you haven't already, I would definitely recommend starting discussions from the profiles where you can preserve the very helpful posts you've made here, otherwise they're liable to get lost in the shuffle.

Private User

2/25/2022 at 8:24 PM

Thanks Ashley, I only needed the two merge reversals for now. Adding the corroborating information was just an afterthought, but I appreciate the advice and will link to this discussion in James' About.

Brian Aslak Gylte PRO

2/26/2022 at 3:05 AM

Hello, I need help removing Anna Henriksdotter born 1829 as the mother from this profile Jan Enarsson I cannot do this as it will split the tree. Would someone please help me?

Alex Moes C

2/26/2022 at 6:34 AM

Brian Aslak Gylte do you just want to remove Anna as the mother or also the father Enar?
Is Anna Henriksdotter , the current mother, the same person as the foster-mother, Anna Henriksdotter

Alex Moes C

2/26/2022 at 6:39 AM

Brian Aslak Gylte more technically, to disconnect the mother Anna from Jan will require either that we disconnect both parents from Jan OR that we disconnect Anna from Enar, leaving Enar as a single father. We can then create a new spouse for Enar (who has no connection to Jan) and merge the existing Anna into the new wife (if appropriate) resulting in Jan having a father but no known mother.

If you could explain the specific family structure (or link to an online tree that is publicly visible) that would be easiest for us to help you achieve what you are attempting.

Brian Aslak Gylte PRO

2/26/2022 at 6:40 AM

Two different people named Anna Henriksdotter had been merged. I tried to correct this by creating a new profile, but I couldn't detach the mother-son relationship so I redefined it as foster-mother, and removed her marriage. So I just need to sever that connection.

The old Scandinavian patronym system resulted in many people with the same name, but due to her birth year, she could not possibly be Enar's mother as she ends up with the same age as her own grandchildren.

Thank you for your assistance!

Alex Moes C

2/26/2022 at 6:56 AM

Brian Aslak Gylte done

Private User

2/26/2022 at 8:28 AM

Please unmerge Jean-Baptiste Chartier