Sigurd Syr (Halvdansson) - Mother

Sigurd Syr is my 26th great grandfather.
Harald III "Hard ruler", king of Norway is my 25th great grandfather.

Harald III "hard ruler", king of Norway.
My 31st great uncle.

Sigurd Syr (Halvdasson)
My 27th uncle's father.

My 29 th greatgrandfather!!

I agree with S.

Harald I "Fairhair", king of Norway is my 30th great grandfather.
King Halvdan "The Gray" Sigurdsson is my 27th great grandfather.
Sigurd Syr is my 26th great grandfather.
Harald III "Hard ruler", king of Norway is my 25th great grandfather

SAGA -- I concur.
Sad hgw people are , Some here in South Africa with definite Sami Y-DNA . Yet denying it -NO ! its Dutch not Sami ! Why ?
Myself some Sami atDNA so that just my ancestry , proud of all of them all .
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Why can I not read my earlier posts, nothing in them should be hidden.

"Halvdan Sigurdsson var sønn av Sigurd Haraldsson Rise. Han regjerte som konge over Hadafylke omkring år 900. Ifølge sagalitteraturen var Halvdan Sigurdsson far til "Sigurd Syr", konge på Ringerike, som ble gift med Åsta Gudbrandsdatter og dermed farfar til kong Harald Hardråde".

https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigurd_Haraldsson_Rise

Snorre Sturlason did not forget this sami woman, Snøfrid Svåsedatter, the only thing I read as a possibly post-construction, was him describing her as a witch, posssble created to reflect that she was pagan, not christian, thus a witch, a husband griveing her so hard after her death, that he must have been enchanted.

But when we read the saga's, we understand that he grived her for 3 years, she was lying in her bed, all dressed up, and he was out of his mind, when Þorleifr spaki convinced him that she at least ought to have a change of clothes, Harald agreed, but when they did this, a foul odor quickly spread throughout the room.

I see nothing of this that should be considered as witchery, rather ignorance. Maybe the same ignorance that now have cut her off as one of my ancestors. Anyway, she would have according to the saga's died 2 years before Harald at least, not the same year as him, now in her profile it says 932.

Please fix the profile and reconnect the cutted lines so taht they fit with what we know, not what we does not know.

Alex Moes
Defending unfair treatment done by another geni curator and by that neglecting the Geni rules that mayor changes in historical profiles must have a discussion before just acting by cutting.
Reported and noticed.

Alex Moes

One man is only known for having been married to x. All his 3 children have x as their mother. No other wife is mentioned at all. Someone propose that he actually could have been married twice, still no proof thereof, but a doubt have been set in motion.

A curator acts on this and later cuts the line between the children to the mother and locks her profile despite the clear fact that he only had one known wife, and despite the fact that when they were mentioned, it corresponds to the time when their children ought to have been born.

If a curator just do this, without even starting a discussion before he acts,then he acts against the rules in Geni. And despite protests from users, if the only one defending it, is another curator, it will be two faults.

I would rather see that curator solve problem when asked to do so, instead of creating problems not asked to do so. If error exist, they can correct them, if it concerns major interventions, they should, just as any other user, raise a debate, that's it.

-- post directly targeting other users -- ??

We all tend to direct replies to specific people in discussions .

" It doesn't matter what your issues are, post directly targeting other users (Curators or otherwise is not acceptable behaviour) will be reported and if you feel that is unreasonable then by all means Report me. "
think everyone can just relax and not attack everyone else . Alex Moes you also very aggressive here .

Rather remove myseldf if Alex Moes is going to attack everyone ,
Have a pleasant discussion .

Private User

please assist

Private User I agree with you 110%

Doing the right thing, or doing the wrong?

Maximal damage, or minimal damage, or zero damage in a tree?

Example, from a profile here on Geni.

One man X had a named mother, someone in a debate forum (not on Geni), argued that instead, she was the mans wife, not his mother. A Curator cut the line and directed to that thread.

She was now not his mother, but partly now made his wife, as her line were cut off upwards.Profile locked down.Two sister was also affected, instead of a named mother they got a N.N. mother, Man X lost both his parents and are now not even related to his 2 sisters. This is maximal damage.

A minmal damage, would have been to let it be just as it was, then the man X would have had 2 sibblings, he would have had his cousins still visible in the tree, and it would have made sence. The lines would be intact. A footnote in the sisters profiles mentioning that their mother might have been their brothers wife would have been a more corrrect solution. Only one of the sister had offsprings. This is if, it was a good assumtion.

Zero damage, the mother to X was indeed not X wife, but only his mother, they had the same first name, creating the confusion about it, this would have been cleared out if, the curator had started a discussion before he cut and locked the profiles, Now, no one can do anything about it, not correct it, change it, and complaine about it does not solve anything either.

I had no idea just asking for clarification about the connected mother would cause such a ruckus. Apologies to those it upset and thanks to those who understood why I asked and responded to the original question.

But, dear cousin Debbie Gambrell such a 'ruckus' is healthy, in historic-genealogical research.

Thank you Marvin. Healthy discourse , passion and hearing other different opinions and views than yesmen on bended knees

Debbie Gambrell

A little tip from my experience here on Geni.
If you just want clarification, start by just ask the managers of the profile in question, often they can help you. But if you want havoc, start a thread instead, that will attract some very unserious curators and they will many times, if not always, destroy the whole line instead.

Ulf, that may work with more recent generations, but I've been told none of us are supposed to correct / fix, etc. the ancient lines, that there is a team who specializes in them. Plus, getting response from profile managers even on much more recent ancestors has proven to be a disappointing endeavor more times than not.

Debbie, sorry that you've had bad experience from getting positive response from other profile managers, it seems that the problem might depend on people who just want to be a part of managing profiles more than taking care of them.

"but I've been told none of us are supposed to correct / fix, etc. the ancient lines, that there is a team who specializes in them."

Unfortunately, this is not true when it come to the Scandinavian parts in the tree, we have no special educated experts nor real historians in this area registrated as user or curators, I have not seen one single user meeting up to this. We have amateurs and volontairs, doing their best or worst depending on how we will judge the outcome of the presented profiles in the tree.
It's likely that the info you got, was about other areas, in centraleurope, Britain, etc.

Thanks for clarifying about the more ancient Scandinavian parts of the tree. The various DNA tests my son have taken confirm us to have Norweigian, Finnish, Greenlander, etc. ancestry, so I use Geni a lot to try to find more info on the ancestors. I've come to realize that they have their oral traditions / sagas that I'm just not familiar with, so I have to depend on the collaboration on Geni to help me know who was an actual person vs. those of strictly mythology.

The answer to your initial question, mother?

Sigurd Halvdansson Syr, name of the mother is not fully known, but the father was Halvdan Sigurdsson. According to "Det norske Folks Historie, Volym 1" Halvdan was married to N.N. Ranesdotter, a daugher to Nerid jarl, but more likely one of his grandchilds according to chronology. Sigurd Syr in turn, was a great-grandson of King Harald Fairhair
according to Heimskringla, some historians think that this is invented, but if Harald actually infied norway under one rule, most of the later kings after him would have been of his offsprings.