Sarah (Katz) Jaffe - Explanation of Edit To Father of Sarah Katz

PS: Please do not ignore my work! Thanks.

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I checked, and according to Dr. Wonder (section 248)who relies on the words of Yosef HACOHEN KATZ, "She'erit Yose" written in his book he wrote, This is the correct information:
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She'erit Yosef's mother had two half-sisters.
The first one who was her eldest sister from the same father (was the mother of Rabbi Shlomo Luria (HaMaharashel).

And the second, who was her younger sister from a common mother, was indeed Sarah, the wife of Rabbi Shmuel Jaffe (Father of BAH)

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In this case, I believe that we must refer to the things that Rabbi Yosef HACOHEN KATZ, "She'erit Yosef "wrote in his book, because he must have known who his mother's sisters were, this is first-hand information

Haim, To have a tree based entirely on Jacoby and then disregard Jacoby without concrete evidence to the contrary doesn't make any sense to me.

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You opened a discussion and asked for a reference to your words...because I am a descendant of both of them, I looked into the matter.

If Dr. Wonder did not make a mistake in his understanding of the book "She'erit Yosef", and did not take things out of context, then the things written there are as I wrote.

In my opinion, (assuming that Dr. Wonder understood what he read well), there is no possibility that Rabbi Yosef Katz did not know who his aunts were, but I will let the curators decide what information is acceptable to them, and I will accept their decisions

The information is here, everyone is welcome to read:

https://tablet.otzar.org/#/b/105732/p/102/t/1663490037420/fs/oEILf1...

Haim, Thanks for the continuation. Would it be possible for you to extract and post the passage from Wunder to which you are referring (either in Hebrew or English)? I have no reasonable way of locating what you are referring to in the URL to tablet.otzar. If this is not possible then I cannot evaluate the Wunder evidence further and will leave the matter to Randy's discretion, who is curating Jacoby's Jaffe tree on Geni. I merely wish to point out so that it is clear what Jacoby says about the father of Sarah (Katz) Joffe.

PS: Just to be clear, my post of 5:16 AM was made before I received your posts of 5:05 and 5:09. They crossed in the air. I now notice that your initial post seems to have disappeared (in which you stated your belief that Jacoby was wrong). That was the post I was replying to at 5:16.

Returning to your post of 5:05: The way I understand the evidence from Jacoby is that She'erit Yosef's mother was Falka (Walka) Katz But his father, Rabbi Mordechai Gershon Katz married twice. The second wife was the daughter of Rabbi Yoel Singer, of Cracow and Eshet Singer This second wife of R' Mordechai Gershon Katz thus becomes She'erit Yosef's step-mother, and she has two sisters: Daughter of Joel Jaffe and Chana Falka Hertzkus Now it turns out that the above mentioned Eshet Singer is the 1/2 sister of the first wife of R' Mordechai Gershon Katz, which means that when R' Gershon remarries, he is marrying the daughter of his first wife's 1/2 sister. Now you can see why She'erit Yosef may have been a little 'frablonjet' as to who is aunts were. In order to reconcile the Wunder tree with this I would need to see the complete Wunder tree for R' MG Katz, She'erit Yosef, and BaCH.

Randy Schoenberg

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I have attached the information from Dr. Wonder in which he quoted them from the book of Rabbi Yosef HACOHEN KATZ, "She'erit Yosef

I attached the information to the profile picture of
Sarah Jaffe

The relevant information is written in the bottom lines

I posted some comments about the Wunder mini-biography vis a vis Jacobi and others, surrounding the parentage of R' Yoel Sirkis (BaCH) in the Photo section of Rabbi Yoel ben Shmuel Sirkis, "The Bach"

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And I saw that someone translated for you exactly the things I wrote to you

Just like you, I also want the information that appears in Geni to be true, accurate and real, and certainly when it comes to my ancestors

Haim, That makes two of us. I don't fully understand why Unknown Father of Sarah has been made the father of Sarah (mother of BaCH). Is there more evidence besides Jacobi I haven't yet seen? If one follows Wunder the name should be NN Schrentzal and if one follows Jacobi the name should be R' Mordecai Gershon Katz b. Haim.

Or if one follows neither Wunder or Jacobi on this fact then the name should remain blank. What say you?

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The identity of Sara's father is unknown (at least to me), so I also believe that it is necessary to write who her mother was, and as for her father to write that his identity is unknown

Haim, Thanks for the independent confirmation. I have posted this joint conclusion to both profiles (Sarah and her father). I hope the product of the labor doesn't fall upon deaf ears. Over and out....

O.K. THANKS

correction: in my post of 19 Sep 2022 at 9:09 the last line should read: "... should be R' Haim Katz, father of R; Mordechai Gershon Katz."