Hoemer - Help needed understanding this citation

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Encyclopedia Of The Enlightenment. [S.l.]: Infobase Publishing. P. 246. ISBN 978-0-8160-5335-3

UMBERTO ECO (February 28, 2012). Middle Ages – Barbarians, Christians and Muslims. [s.l.]: Leya. P. 60. ISBN 978-972-20-4992-4

In October 409, the Vandals crossed the Pyrenees into the Iberian Peninsula. There they received land from the Romans, as federates, in Galécia (to the northwest) the Hasdingi, and the Silingi in Betica (in the south), while the Alans received land in Lusitania (to the west) and in the region around New Carthage. The Hasdingi vandals were defeated by the Suebi and Romans in the "nervasi" hills. Gunderic and his army fled to Betica, pursued by the Romans, where Gunderic became king of the Vandal Silingi. Still, the Suebi, who also controlled part of Galicia, and the Visigoths, who invaded Iberia before, received lands in Septimania (southern France), crushing the Alans, of whom the survivors hailed Gunderic as their king. During the vandalism of the Visigoth camp, Gossana, daughter of Alarico II, was kidnapped and Prince Hoamer (Oemer) married her, which would generate Goswinta, which would serve as a union with the next Visigoth generation on the throne, when she married Atanagildo. The Vandals propose a division of the Iberian peninsula with the Visigoths, however, they are expelled to North Africa in 429.


[[Hoemer Hoemer] Omaer (Hoamer)] was the nephew of Hilderic, King of the Vandals & Alans (his sibling or a wife’s sibling). Captured, blinded and perhaps later executed (by 533) by [[Gelimer King of The Vandals Gelimer King of The Vandals] Gelimer], Hilderic’s cousin and enemy.


What got mixed up on dates?

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Mérovech, leader of the Frankish tribes
→ Childéric I MÉROVINGIENS
his son → Audofledis OF THE SALIAN FRANKS
his daughter → Theodoric "the Great," king of the Ostrogoths
her husband → Amalafreda "the Elder", Queen of the Vandals
his sister → Thrasamund, king of the Vandals
her husband → Gailar
his brother → Gelimer KING OF THE VANDALS
his son

It’s Hilderic who was killed in 533 — was that the confusion?

Re: During the vandalism of the Visigoth camp, Gossana, daughter of Alarico II, was kidnapped …

But how could this be? Gunderic was long dead by the time Gossana was born.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunderic - Gunderic (Latin: Gundericus; 379–428), King of Hasding Vandals (407-418), then King of Vandals and Alans (418–428), led the Hasding Vandals, a Germanic tribe originally residing near the Oder River, to take part in the barbarian invasions of the Western Roman Empire in the fifth century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaric_II Alaric II (Gothic: 𐌰𐌻𐌰𐍂𐌴𐌹𐌺𐍃, Alareiks, "ruler of all";[1] Latin: Alaricus; c. 458/466 – August 507) was the King of the Visigoths from 484 until 507.

Erica Howton

-"During the vandalism of the Visigoth camp"

It's a process that takes place over a couple of decades, not a day.

That would work. Sloppy writing (or translation) though.

Yes Erica, I agree, it is hard for the reader to understand that the time span is more than 100 years, it seems like everything just happens at once.

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